β² 1749 βΌ About that... (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 155 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hey, whats so bad about w11? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned. Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee. Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tee9000@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Wait i have w11 in my laptop... i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change? Ads are fucked, thats fucked. But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue? I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we'd see mass linux adoption. I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user's knowledge or ability to enable a local account. permalink fedilink source parent [β] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Ads are...already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison. Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS permalink fedilink source parent [β] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there's a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You'd just have to seek that out and it's a pain. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned. Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee. Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tee9000@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Wait i have w11 in my laptop... i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change? Ads are fucked, thats fucked. But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue? I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we'd see mass linux adoption. I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user's knowledge or ability to enable a local account. permalink fedilink source parent [β] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Ads are...already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison. Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS permalink fedilink source parent [β] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there's a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You'd just have to seek that out and it's a pain. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tee9000@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Wait i have w11 in my laptop... i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change? Ads are fucked, thats fucked. But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue? I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we'd see mass linux adoption. I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user's knowledge or ability to enable a local account. permalink fedilink source parent [β] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Ads are...already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison. Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS permalink fedilink source parent [β] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there's a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You'd just have to seek that out and it's a pain. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user's knowledge or ability to enable a local account. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Ads are...already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison. Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS permalink fedilink source parent
[β] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there's a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You'd just have to seek that out and it's a pain. permalink fedilink source parent
