▲ 424 ▼ Israel detonates Hezbollah walkie-talkies in second wave after pager attack (www.axios.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Wilshire@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 206 comments fedilink hide all child comments The sound of many of them exploding
[+] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If the beepers and radios were targeted at Hezbollah militia members, then it isn’t terrorism. If the equipment was sold in regular retail channels meant for the general Lebanese population, then it is terrorism. We don’t know enough to make that call 100%, but early analysis is strongly suggesting it was targeted. To call it terrorism at this point is flippant and unsupported, and draws attention away from and fails to highlight their larger crime of genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is absolutely terrorism. When the pagers went off most of the people hit by them were in plain clothes, including a child, people were just seeing other randomly exploding and are adding strain to hospitals. This is a terrorist attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and when we bombed Germany in WW2 we killed hundreds of children. War is bad. Terrorism is bad. But they are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Genocide =/= war. Stop trying to justify genocidal terrorism on the basis of some imaginary "war". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago There is a difference between the actions in Gaza and the actions in Lebanon. permalink fedilink source parent [+] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk -17 points 2 years ago* (3 children) It is absolutely terrorism Too early to tell, but likely not most of the people hit by them were in plain clothes oh good, if i find myself an active combatant in a war-zone i should just chuck on a t-shirt. including a child Regrettable but civilian casualties in a war-zone are inevitable people were just seeing other (presumably you meant to put "people" here) randomly exploding they weren't randoms, at the moment it seems they were Hezbollah and are adding strain to hospitals That'll happen when a large number of combatants are taken out at once permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago I think the point was that, for the people around, this was undistinguishable from suicide bombers, which are usually considered as terrorists. Terrorism is meant to inspire terror and insecurity. This did exactly that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Human Rights Watch called it unlawful: Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is no "war-zone". There are no "combatants". There's just genocidal terrorists murdering civilians in several different states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Hezbollah have been firing rockets into israel for months, it absolutely is a warzone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is absolutely terrorism. When the pagers went off most of the people hit by them were in plain clothes, including a child, people were just seeing other randomly exploding and are adding strain to hospitals. This is a terrorist attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and when we bombed Germany in WW2 we killed hundreds of children. War is bad. Terrorism is bad. But they are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Genocide =/= war. Stop trying to justify genocidal terrorism on the basis of some imaginary "war". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago There is a difference between the actions in Gaza and the actions in Lebanon. permalink fedilink source parent [+] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk -17 points 2 years ago* (3 children) It is absolutely terrorism Too early to tell, but likely not most of the people hit by them were in plain clothes oh good, if i find myself an active combatant in a war-zone i should just chuck on a t-shirt. including a child Regrettable but civilian casualties in a war-zone are inevitable people were just seeing other (presumably you meant to put "people" here) randomly exploding they weren't randoms, at the moment it seems they were Hezbollah and are adding strain to hospitals That'll happen when a large number of combatants are taken out at once permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago I think the point was that, for the people around, this was undistinguishable from suicide bombers, which are usually considered as terrorists. Terrorism is meant to inspire terror and insecurity. This did exactly that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Human Rights Watch called it unlawful: Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is no "war-zone". There are no "combatants". There's just genocidal terrorists murdering civilians in several different states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Hezbollah have been firing rockets into israel for months, it absolutely is a warzone permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, and when we bombed Germany in WW2 we killed hundreds of children. War is bad. Terrorism is bad. But they are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Genocide =/= war. Stop trying to justify genocidal terrorism on the basis of some imaginary "war". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago There is a difference between the actions in Gaza and the actions in Lebanon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Genocide =/= war. Stop trying to justify genocidal terrorism on the basis of some imaginary "war". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago There is a difference between the actions in Gaza and the actions in Lebanon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago There is a difference between the actions in Gaza and the actions in Lebanon. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk -17 points 2 years ago* (3 children) It is absolutely terrorism Too early to tell, but likely not most of the people hit by them were in plain clothes oh good, if i find myself an active combatant in a war-zone i should just chuck on a t-shirt. including a child Regrettable but civilian casualties in a war-zone are inevitable people were just seeing other (presumably you meant to put "people" here) randomly exploding they weren't randoms, at the moment it seems they were Hezbollah and are adding strain to hospitals That'll happen when a large number of combatants are taken out at once permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago I think the point was that, for the people around, this was undistinguishable from suicide bombers, which are usually considered as terrorists. Terrorism is meant to inspire terror and insecurity. This did exactly that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Human Rights Watch called it unlawful: Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is no "war-zone". There are no "combatants". There's just genocidal terrorists murdering civilians in several different states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Hezbollah have been firing rockets into israel for months, it absolutely is a warzone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago I think the point was that, for the people around, this was undistinguishable from suicide bombers, which are usually considered as terrorists. Terrorism is meant to inspire terror and insecurity. This did exactly that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Human Rights Watch called it unlawful: Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is no "war-zone". There are no "combatants". There's just genocidal terrorists murdering civilians in several different states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Hezbollah have been firing rockets into israel for months, it absolutely is a warzone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Hezbollah have been firing rockets into israel for months, it absolutely is a warzone permalink fedilink source parent
