▲ 204 ▼ After $700 Million U.S. Bailout, Trucking Firm Is Shutting Down (www.nytimes.com) submitted 3 years ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Also doing everything they can to funnel more of our money to another country's war. Awesome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) The money is only being spent on replacing the outdated military hardware that's being sent over to Ukraine, which would otherwise be sitting and rotting in storage and would need replacement or expensive repairs to get running again. The US loses nothing from sending weaponry to Ukraine, and has everything to gain. It prevents continued Russian aggression on other countries (and Russia has explicit plans to invade more countries), saves Ukrainian lives and drives away the invaders so civilians aren't being murdered in their homes, and boosts the economy through the increased number of jobs created for building the newer, better replacement equipment. To claim that the money is being wasted is naive and misinformed at best, and actively disingenuous and malicious at worst. Putin would love for the US to stop sending support so he can continue his genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (2 children) The money is only being spent on replacing the outdated military hardware that’s being sent over to Ukraine, which would otherwise be sitting and rotting in storage and would need replacement or expensive repairs to get running again. Would be totally fine with that if it were being deducted from the next budget, but it's not, so it's added to the hundreds of billions we're already taking on in debt while also neglecting our own people. It prevents continued Russian aggression on other countries Couldn't care less. Our people don't have health care, education that they can afford, and the minimum wage is still 7 bucks. I'd much rather see that money spent saving our people from the aggression of our predatory economic environment, as is already the case in most first-world countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spare_muppet@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's not like your country was about to provide socialized health care, affordable quality education, and a living minimum wage, and suddenly stopped those programs in order to fund the war. And you politicians most likely to stop funding the Ukraine are the least likely to vote for any of these "socialist programs" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) That doesn't make it any less problematic, nor does it make me any less right in pointing out the extent to which our people are neglected so war profiteers can fund their golden parachutes. (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) Sometimes it's not everyone else that's wrong, it's just you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sounds like your mad at the republicans, and yet parroting their talking points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe the fact that they have varied points of view actually shows that they think for themselves instead of parroting anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago 'varied', you mean standing for whatever benefits them the most at any given moment even if it immediately contradicts the statement they made immediately before. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Sometimes it's not about the money, it's about doing the right thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) The money is only being spent on replacing the outdated military hardware that's being sent over to Ukraine, which would otherwise be sitting and rotting in storage and would need replacement or expensive repairs to get running again. The US loses nothing from sending weaponry to Ukraine, and has everything to gain. It prevents continued Russian aggression on other countries (and Russia has explicit plans to invade more countries), saves Ukrainian lives and drives away the invaders so civilians aren't being murdered in their homes, and boosts the economy through the increased number of jobs created for building the newer, better replacement equipment. To claim that the money is being wasted is naive and misinformed at best, and actively disingenuous and malicious at worst. Putin would love for the US to stop sending support so he can continue his genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (2 children) The money is only being spent on replacing the outdated military hardware that’s being sent over to Ukraine, which would otherwise be sitting and rotting in storage and would need replacement or expensive repairs to get running again. Would be totally fine with that if it were being deducted from the next budget, but it's not, so it's added to the hundreds of billions we're already taking on in debt while also neglecting our own people. It prevents continued Russian aggression on other countries Couldn't care less. Our people don't have health care, education that they can afford, and the minimum wage is still 7 bucks. I'd much rather see that money spent saving our people from the aggression of our predatory economic environment, as is already the case in most first-world countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spare_muppet@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's not like your country was about to provide socialized health care, affordable quality education, and a living minimum wage, and suddenly stopped those programs in order to fund the war. And you politicians most likely to stop funding the Ukraine are the least likely to vote for any of these "socialist programs" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) That doesn't make it any less problematic, nor does it make me any less right in pointing out the extent to which our people are neglected so war profiteers can fund their golden parachutes. (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) Sometimes it's not everyone else that's wrong, it's just you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sounds like your mad at the republicans, and yet parroting their talking points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe the fact that they have varied points of view actually shows that they think for themselves instead of parroting anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago 'varied', you mean standing for whatever benefits them the most at any given moment even if it immediately contradicts the statement they made immediately before. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (2 children) The money is only being spent on replacing the outdated military hardware that’s being sent over to Ukraine, which would otherwise be sitting and rotting in storage and would need replacement or expensive repairs to get running again. Would be totally fine with that if it were being deducted from the next budget, but it's not, so it's added to the hundreds of billions we're already taking on in debt while also neglecting our own people. It prevents continued Russian aggression on other countries Couldn't care less. Our people don't have health care, education that they can afford, and the minimum wage is still 7 bucks. I'd much rather see that money spent saving our people from the aggression of our predatory economic environment, as is already the case in most first-world countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spare_muppet@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's not like your country was about to provide socialized health care, affordable quality education, and a living minimum wage, and suddenly stopped those programs in order to fund the war. And you politicians most likely to stop funding the Ukraine are the least likely to vote for any of these "socialist programs" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) That doesn't make it any less problematic, nor does it make me any less right in pointing out the extent to which our people are neglected so war profiteers can fund their golden parachutes. (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) Sometimes it's not everyone else that's wrong, it's just you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sounds like your mad at the republicans, and yet parroting their talking points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe the fact that they have varied points of view actually shows that they think for themselves instead of parroting anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago 'varied', you mean standing for whatever benefits them the most at any given moment even if it immediately contradicts the statement they made immediately before. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spare_muppet@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's not like your country was about to provide socialized health care, affordable quality education, and a living minimum wage, and suddenly stopped those programs in order to fund the war. And you politicians most likely to stop funding the Ukraine are the least likely to vote for any of these "socialist programs" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) That doesn't make it any less problematic, nor does it make me any less right in pointing out the extent to which our people are neglected so war profiteers can fund their golden parachutes. (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) Sometimes it's not everyone else that's wrong, it's just you. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) That doesn't make it any less problematic, nor does it make me any less right in pointing out the extent to which our people are neglected so war profiteers can fund their golden parachutes. (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) Sometimes it's not everyone else that's wrong, it's just you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (Sadly, with help from a lot of chickenhawks, like the folks on this thread.) Sometimes it's not everyone else that's wrong, it's just you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sounds like your mad at the republicans, and yet parroting their talking points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe the fact that they have varied points of view actually shows that they think for themselves instead of parroting anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago 'varied', you mean standing for whatever benefits them the most at any given moment even if it immediately contradicts the statement they made immediately before. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe the fact that they have varied points of view actually shows that they think for themselves instead of parroting anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago 'varied', you mean standing for whatever benefits them the most at any given moment even if it immediately contradicts the statement they made immediately before. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago 'varied', you mean standing for whatever benefits them the most at any given moment even if it immediately contradicts the statement they made immediately before. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Sometimes it's not about the money, it's about doing the right thing. permalink fedilink source parent