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NATO apologism (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

that 1) NATO did, in fact, make a move on Gaddafi

Not something I ever disputed? Would be kinda hard for a rebel force to get a cruise missile.

  1. the West supported him when it was beneficial but turned on a dime the minute he stopped cooperating.

This I don't really agree with as it's a bit of a reductionist mischaracterization. Gaddafi literally funded terrorist attacks on the US in the 80s, which led to about 15-20 years of political disruptions between the two countries. They normalized relations again in the early 00s, with the US eventually going as far as to delist them from the state sponsored terror list in 08.

It would be hard to describe that as "turned on a dime the minute he stopped cooperating". There's a reason why no one in the UN, including Russia and China UN vetoed the resolution.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Gaddafi literally funded terrorist attacks on the US in the 80s, which led to about 15-20 years of political disruptions between the two countries.

    According to the Regan administration perhaps, but not according to intelligence agencies from several European countries. There was a concerted effort to link Gaddafi to individual terrorist attacks, like the Lockerbie bombing, although there was no hard evidence to support that.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    According to the Regan administration perhaps, but not according to intelligence agencies from several European countries.

    Again, a reductionist interpretation. There's been a lot of conspiracies over the years due to so many groups initially claiming responsibility. However the trial held in the UK and a recent one in 2020 both point to the same culprit.

    I think you may be talking about the bombing in Germany.

    Either way, the point is that Gaddafi has sponsored over 15 violent paramilitary groups in other people's countries. Not exactly going to be winning a lot of friends on the global stage by doing that.

    This is not what stable leadership looks like ...

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