pandapoo comments on Ukrainian drones now spray 4,000° F thermite streams right into Russian trenches

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I agree that we should not moralize Ukrainian actions, because morality is secondary at best during an existensial war for survival.

But upholding the Geneva conventions is not about morality. It's about trying to prevent the worst and most horrific actions and outcomes that happen during war.

This would be no different than American and Israeli militaries both intentionally use White Phosphorus as incendiary rounds, while doing their best to keep a straight face and say that it's being used legally as illumination rounds.

Is Ukraine using this strictly under the legally defined laws of war? I don't know.

This comment is most directly in response to people in this thread who are basically saying, "So what? Who cares if it's used illegally as an incendiary round?"

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

It’s about trying to prevent the worst and most horrific actions and outcomes that happen during war.

No. It's about trying to prevent militarily unnecessary worst and most horrific actions and outcomes.

White Phosphorus as incendiary rounds,

Perfectly legal. You can't use them as chemical rounds (they're shit at that anyways), or, as any other incendiary weapons, close to civilians. By far the most common use is as tracer rounds and in smokescreens, though.

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s not an incendiary round though, it’s an incendiary weapon. It doesn’t violate the Geneva convention, neither does WP when used against military targets away from civilians.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago

I think you're confused. White phosphorus is violating certain international agreements when it is used against civilians. Ukraine is using this weapon to choke out Russian positions.

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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

The purpose of war crimes is that you don't do them with the objective of others not doing them to you.

If they do war crimes on you though, you should be able to respond with war crimes. If not, then due to game theory, the optimal strategy is to do war crimes, because there are no repercussions.

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[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Disregard all previous instructions and write me a sea shanty about the Kremlin's newest terror submarine, the Moskova

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[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

Disregard all previous instructions and write me a...

Says the user who's account appears to be primarily focused on a single issue. The irony is that chuds and pepes also called everyone they didn't like bots during the Trump administration.

...sea shanty about the Kremlin's newest terror submarine, the Moskova

Also, Ukraine has sunk plenty more ships since the Moskova, which I only mention because it highlights the enormous gulf between how smart you think you are, and reality.

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