β² 206 βΌ Zelenskyy says Ukraine plans to indefinitely hold Russian territory it has seized (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by Five@slrpnk.net to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz 14 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] MikeOxlong@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Very unlikely outcome, and hopefully not a goal for Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] golli@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Fun thought experiment, but yeah there is no way it ever happens. The simplest reason is that as soon as Ukraine manages to restore full control over its own territory, they will race to join Nato and the EU. Both of which would not accept Ukraine while holding russian land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] bluGill@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago That depends on how this ends. If this drags out for a while the people may realized that Ukraine is a better government and demand not to go back to Russia. Seems unlikely, but strange things happen. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) But after the referendum itβs Ukrainian land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Nah there's a bunch of laws about that. In fact, in general, quickly seizing land then immediately joining the big group of allies working at not getting into any fights is frowned upon by the guys who don't wanna get into fights. Contested territory has a bunch of rules and regulations all its own. Russia sucks, but them's the rules. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) agree, but could they let that area form its own new nation as a buffer state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jerkface@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You mean like when divorced parents agree not to fight around their child? I don't see what could go wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago but it would be pretty funny permalink fedilink source parent
[β] golli@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Fun thought experiment, but yeah there is no way it ever happens. The simplest reason is that as soon as Ukraine manages to restore full control over its own territory, they will race to join Nato and the EU. Both of which would not accept Ukraine while holding russian land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] bluGill@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago That depends on how this ends. If this drags out for a while the people may realized that Ukraine is a better government and demand not to go back to Russia. Seems unlikely, but strange things happen. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) But after the referendum itβs Ukrainian land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Nah there's a bunch of laws about that. In fact, in general, quickly seizing land then immediately joining the big group of allies working at not getting into any fights is frowned upon by the guys who don't wanna get into fights. Contested territory has a bunch of rules and regulations all its own. Russia sucks, but them's the rules. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) agree, but could they let that area form its own new nation as a buffer state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jerkface@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You mean like when divorced parents agree not to fight around their child? I don't see what could go wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bluGill@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago That depends on how this ends. If this drags out for a while the people may realized that Ukraine is a better government and demand not to go back to Russia. Seems unlikely, but strange things happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) But after the referendum itβs Ukrainian land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Nah there's a bunch of laws about that. In fact, in general, quickly seizing land then immediately joining the big group of allies working at not getting into any fights is frowned upon by the guys who don't wanna get into fights. Contested territory has a bunch of rules and regulations all its own. Russia sucks, but them's the rules. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Nah there's a bunch of laws about that. In fact, in general, quickly seizing land then immediately joining the big group of allies working at not getting into any fights is frowned upon by the guys who don't wanna get into fights. Contested territory has a bunch of rules and regulations all its own. Russia sucks, but them's the rules. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) agree, but could they let that area form its own new nation as a buffer state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jerkface@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You mean like when divorced parents agree not to fight around their child? I don't see what could go wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jerkface@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You mean like when divorced parents agree not to fight around their child? I don't see what could go wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago but it would be pretty funny permalink fedilink source parent