▲ 5 ▼ Two brands suspend advertising on X after their ads appeared next to pro-Nazi content (www.cnn.com) submitted 3 years ago by airdi@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Is there a link to the picture of this ad next to nazi content. I couldnt find it in the article. Edit: I found the sources of the tweets thanks to a comment below. Here is the tweets the ads appeared next to. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Also, was it fascist or nazi? Both terms have been watered down to mean nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Nazis are just German fascists, so that distinction isn't particularly meaningful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Does the distinction even matter in this context? Neither is good and neither should be permitted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. neither should be permitted. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points. I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) A day ago I was talking to a friend about Microsoft and they equated Microsoft to Nazis, I said let's be realistic, they aren't Nazis, they said fine the KKK. Watering down these terms to mean someone you don't like is super dangerous and let's actual Nazis and KKK just play off the accusations as someone not liking them. So I agree, it's been watered down and it's really a bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Those who claim that terms like “Nazi” or “fascist” are being watered down are usually Nazis/fascists themselves, and they're trying to cover it up by convincing everyone that Nazis/fascists don't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down. Then I question their normalcy. Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder. Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always say if you don’t like the idea of corporations having too much power over you, you’ll hate a government that has too much power over you. Corporations deplatform people and shut off their electricity. Governments drag people into the street and shoot them, and firebomb cities. There’s no comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments. Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations. And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population. If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage. Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Also, was it fascist or nazi? Both terms have been watered down to mean nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Nazis are just German fascists, so that distinction isn't particularly meaningful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Does the distinction even matter in this context? Neither is good and neither should be permitted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. neither should be permitted. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points. I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) A day ago I was talking to a friend about Microsoft and they equated Microsoft to Nazis, I said let's be realistic, they aren't Nazis, they said fine the KKK. Watering down these terms to mean someone you don't like is super dangerous and let's actual Nazis and KKK just play off the accusations as someone not liking them. So I agree, it's been watered down and it's really a bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Those who claim that terms like “Nazi” or “fascist” are being watered down are usually Nazis/fascists themselves, and they're trying to cover it up by convincing everyone that Nazis/fascists don't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down. Then I question their normalcy. Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder. Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always say if you don’t like the idea of corporations having too much power over you, you’ll hate a government that has too much power over you. Corporations deplatform people and shut off their electricity. Governments drag people into the street and shoot them, and firebomb cities. There’s no comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments. Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations. And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population. If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage. Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Nazis are just German fascists, so that distinction isn't particularly meaningful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Does the distinction even matter in this context? Neither is good and neither should be permitted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. neither should be permitted. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points. I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. neither should be permitted. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points. I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really. CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points. I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear. lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) A day ago I was talking to a friend about Microsoft and they equated Microsoft to Nazis, I said let's be realistic, they aren't Nazis, they said fine the KKK. Watering down these terms to mean someone you don't like is super dangerous and let's actual Nazis and KKK just play off the accusations as someone not liking them. So I agree, it's been watered down and it's really a bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Those who claim that terms like “Nazi” or “fascist” are being watered down are usually Nazis/fascists themselves, and they're trying to cover it up by convincing everyone that Nazis/fascists don't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down. Then I question their normalcy. Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder. Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always say if you don’t like the idea of corporations having too much power over you, you’ll hate a government that has too much power over you. Corporations deplatform people and shut off their electricity. Governments drag people into the street and shoot them, and firebomb cities. There’s no comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments. Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations. And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population. If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage. Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Those who claim that terms like “Nazi” or “fascist” are being watered down are usually Nazis/fascists themselves, and they're trying to cover it up by convincing everyone that Nazis/fascists don't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down. Then I question their normalcy. Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder. Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down. Then I question their normalcy. Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder. Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down. Then I question their normalcy. Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder. Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors. Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always say if you don’t like the idea of corporations having too much power over you, you’ll hate a government that has too much power over you. Corporations deplatform people and shut off their electricity. Governments drag people into the street and shoot them, and firebomb cities. There’s no comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments. Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations. And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population. If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage. Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments. Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations. And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population. If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage. Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable. permalink fedilink source parent
