▲ 587 ▼ Stance on conflict (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by trek32@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 225 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) America was locked into that in the Obama era. Israel gets massive amounts of aid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* There is more than enough legal reason to justify stopping sales to Israel but the rules are not applied equally: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240857410/how-do-leahy-laws-apply-to-u-s-support-for-israel So it seems like they choose not to and I'm not sure if there's a justification for that which isn't fucking atrocious permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And our presidents have been saying “two state solution” for far longer AFAIK. Frankly anybody still pushing that line in 2024 might as well just drop the mask and say what Trump is saying. man some of this rhetoric really makes you think... "you are literally as bad as a nazi if you think that complete and total end of this long running conflict/war is probably unlikely to go well" since when was there a problem with a two state solution? Currently the issue is that there really isn't a two state solution due to the strip repeatedly fucking itself in the ass. Granted israel doesn't get a clean pass here either, with all the settler bullshit they're doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* maybe? I would have to see some convincing evidence of this outside of just "trust me bro" regardless, this doesn't stop me from believing in a two state solution, because it turns out i have free will and can have my own opinions, so thats cool. I would think if any US president hadn't supported it, there would've already been a war and this would no longer be a problem, but i guess your concept of support is probably closer to conspiracy so. also edit: if you judge hitler by his actions and not his words, you'll miss the part where he mentions killing 6 million jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* There is more than enough legal reason to justify stopping sales to Israel but the rules are not applied equally: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240857410/how-do-leahy-laws-apply-to-u-s-support-for-israel So it seems like they choose not to and I'm not sure if there's a justification for that which isn't fucking atrocious permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And our presidents have been saying “two state solution” for far longer AFAIK. Frankly anybody still pushing that line in 2024 might as well just drop the mask and say what Trump is saying. man some of this rhetoric really makes you think... "you are literally as bad as a nazi if you think that complete and total end of this long running conflict/war is probably unlikely to go well" since when was there a problem with a two state solution? Currently the issue is that there really isn't a two state solution due to the strip repeatedly fucking itself in the ass. Granted israel doesn't get a clean pass here either, with all the settler bullshit they're doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* maybe? I would have to see some convincing evidence of this outside of just "trust me bro" regardless, this doesn't stop me from believing in a two state solution, because it turns out i have free will and can have my own opinions, so thats cool. I would think if any US president hadn't supported it, there would've already been a war and this would no longer be a problem, but i guess your concept of support is probably closer to conspiracy so. also edit: if you judge hitler by his actions and not his words, you'll miss the part where he mentions killing 6 million jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And our presidents have been saying “two state solution” for far longer AFAIK. Frankly anybody still pushing that line in 2024 might as well just drop the mask and say what Trump is saying. man some of this rhetoric really makes you think... "you are literally as bad as a nazi if you think that complete and total end of this long running conflict/war is probably unlikely to go well" since when was there a problem with a two state solution? Currently the issue is that there really isn't a two state solution due to the strip repeatedly fucking itself in the ass. Granted israel doesn't get a clean pass here either, with all the settler bullshit they're doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* maybe? I would have to see some convincing evidence of this outside of just "trust me bro" regardless, this doesn't stop me from believing in a two state solution, because it turns out i have free will and can have my own opinions, so thats cool. I would think if any US president hadn't supported it, there would've already been a war and this would no longer be a problem, but i guess your concept of support is probably closer to conspiracy so. also edit: if you judge hitler by his actions and not his words, you'll miss the part where he mentions killing 6 million jews permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* maybe? I would have to see some convincing evidence of this outside of just "trust me bro" regardless, this doesn't stop me from believing in a two state solution, because it turns out i have free will and can have my own opinions, so thats cool. I would think if any US president hadn't supported it, there would've already been a war and this would no longer be a problem, but i guess your concept of support is probably closer to conspiracy so. also edit: if you judge hitler by his actions and not his words, you'll miss the part where he mentions killing 6 million jews permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* maybe? I would have to see some convincing evidence of this outside of just "trust me bro" regardless, this doesn't stop me from believing in a two state solution, because it turns out i have free will and can have my own opinions, so thats cool. I would think if any US president hadn't supported it, there would've already been a war and this would no longer be a problem, but i guess your concept of support is probably closer to conspiracy so. also edit: if you judge hitler by his actions and not his words, you'll miss the part where he mentions killing 6 million jews permalink fedilink source parent
