▲ 587 ▼ Stance on conflict (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by trek32@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 225 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m sure she’ll handle it better than Biden, and absolutely better than trump would. Hoped that, but DNC killed that hope :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you think there's even a chance of Kamala being as bad as Biden in this regard, you haven't been paying attention to just how bad Biden is with Israel. He literally has no line, and has been publicly saying for 50 years absolutely nothing would ever make him lessen his support for Israel. And he fucking means it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] newfie@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kamala will be the same as Biden on practically every issue Which overall, is fine. But on this issue of genocide, is damning permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago what exactly do you mean by "damning"? Like you're not going to vote for her? Because the alternative is Trump who will be even worse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see her changing what's currently policy, so status quo will continue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) She can't do anything until/if she assumes office as president. Especially with Biden as president, literally nothing else matters. He literally went around congress to avoid like a week delay. Now she could say she's going to be stricter on Israel, and it would probably gain some votes in the right states to have an effect. But what would definitely happen is AIPAC would give just an unthinkable amount of money to trump. That would 100% happen if they have the slightest doubts in the Dem party. So like I've said: She won't be great. But she's better than trump or Biden and we frankly have no option other than voting for her and hoping public opinion affects her position more than donor money immediately after an election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Like I said, can hope but not that hopeful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you think there's even a chance of Kamala being as bad as Biden in this regard, you haven't been paying attention to just how bad Biden is with Israel. He literally has no line, and has been publicly saying for 50 years absolutely nothing would ever make him lessen his support for Israel. And he fucking means it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] newfie@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kamala will be the same as Biden on practically every issue Which overall, is fine. But on this issue of genocide, is damning permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago what exactly do you mean by "damning"? Like you're not going to vote for her? Because the alternative is Trump who will be even worse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see her changing what's currently policy, so status quo will continue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) She can't do anything until/if she assumes office as president. Especially with Biden as president, literally nothing else matters. He literally went around congress to avoid like a week delay. Now she could say she's going to be stricter on Israel, and it would probably gain some votes in the right states to have an effect. But what would definitely happen is AIPAC would give just an unthinkable amount of money to trump. That would 100% happen if they have the slightest doubts in the Dem party. So like I've said: She won't be great. But she's better than trump or Biden and we frankly have no option other than voting for her and hoping public opinion affects her position more than donor money immediately after an election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Like I said, can hope but not that hopeful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] newfie@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kamala will be the same as Biden on practically every issue Which overall, is fine. But on this issue of genocide, is damning permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago what exactly do you mean by "damning"? Like you're not going to vote for her? Because the alternative is Trump who will be even worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago what exactly do you mean by "damning"? Like you're not going to vote for her? Because the alternative is Trump who will be even worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see her changing what's currently policy, so status quo will continue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) She can't do anything until/if she assumes office as president. Especially with Biden as president, literally nothing else matters. He literally went around congress to avoid like a week delay. Now she could say she's going to be stricter on Israel, and it would probably gain some votes in the right states to have an effect. But what would definitely happen is AIPAC would give just an unthinkable amount of money to trump. That would 100% happen if they have the slightest doubts in the Dem party. So like I've said: She won't be great. But she's better than trump or Biden and we frankly have no option other than voting for her and hoping public opinion affects her position more than donor money immediately after an election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Like I said, can hope but not that hopeful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) She can't do anything until/if she assumes office as president. Especially with Biden as president, literally nothing else matters. He literally went around congress to avoid like a week delay. Now she could say she's going to be stricter on Israel, and it would probably gain some votes in the right states to have an effect. But what would definitely happen is AIPAC would give just an unthinkable amount of money to trump. That would 100% happen if they have the slightest doubts in the Dem party. So like I've said: She won't be great. But she's better than trump or Biden and we frankly have no option other than voting for her and hoping public opinion affects her position more than donor money immediately after an election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Like I said, can hope but not that hopeful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Like I said, can hope but not that hopeful. permalink fedilink source parent