▲ 718 ▼ Brazil Blocks X After Musk Ignores Court Orders (www.nytimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by ccunning@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 60 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm brazillian and its not quite blocked yet, can access it as of this moment. It will take some time until all internet providers block twitter permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Can you tell us more about the motivations? Seems political more than anything specific musk is doing now that he wasnt doing before. Im happy to see X go down in flames, but I also dont want citizens silenced if fascism is creeping in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly because of how Xitter refused to block accounts accounts related to an insurrection at the Capitol, then ignored court orders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago To be clear to usinites: that’s the Jan 8 Brazilian capitol uprising, staged a year later and in copy of the orange one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) That judge claims the people he wants banned from the platform are anti democracy and what not, but musk refused to comply. Its a complicated subject and my opinion is just that, my own opinion. That judge (most of them in fact) believe themselves to be all mighty, they interpret the law as they see fit and use their supreme court orders to do as they wish, when their role should be only to act as the highest instance of law in the country. Just today he also froze starlink's account in the country to charge fines from the twitter issue, that is not exactly the correct way to go about it, he is over stepping his powers. To be short: fuck Elon but the supreme court here is also crap and needs a reform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk. O think most people would say it os reasonable for a sex offender to be forbidden from being within 300 ft of a school zone. I would say that being banned from online forums like Twitter or Facebook is fair game for someone who lead an insurrection against their government. The punishment for that was a rope around the neck in most places until recently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago My problem isnt with the punishment, never was. My problem is how these judges have been dishing their own idea of justice and trampling over all other powers in a democracy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not removing misinformation posts, a large amount of unpaid fines, refusal to appoint a legal representative, threatening the judge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago That’s it. You can’t receive a court order and ignore on the grounds of “I don’t think it’s legal”. The legal system is there to be used to make those calls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just out of curiosity: how is the blocking usually implemented? Do they block it via DNS, or is it more sophisticated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Is not nearly as common as you seem to imply, I have never had to deal with that kind of block in my life. It is being done by the isps themselves, thats all I know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Can you tell us more about the motivations? Seems political more than anything specific musk is doing now that he wasnt doing before. Im happy to see X go down in flames, but I also dont want citizens silenced if fascism is creeping in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly because of how Xitter refused to block accounts accounts related to an insurrection at the Capitol, then ignored court orders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago To be clear to usinites: that’s the Jan 8 Brazilian capitol uprising, staged a year later and in copy of the orange one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) That judge claims the people he wants banned from the platform are anti democracy and what not, but musk refused to comply. Its a complicated subject and my opinion is just that, my own opinion. That judge (most of them in fact) believe themselves to be all mighty, they interpret the law as they see fit and use their supreme court orders to do as they wish, when their role should be only to act as the highest instance of law in the country. Just today he also froze starlink's account in the country to charge fines from the twitter issue, that is not exactly the correct way to go about it, he is over stepping his powers. To be short: fuck Elon but the supreme court here is also crap and needs a reform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk. O think most people would say it os reasonable for a sex offender to be forbidden from being within 300 ft of a school zone. I would say that being banned from online forums like Twitter or Facebook is fair game for someone who lead an insurrection against their government. The punishment for that was a rope around the neck in most places until recently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago My problem isnt with the punishment, never was. My problem is how these judges have been dishing their own idea of justice and trampling over all other powers in a democracy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not removing misinformation posts, a large amount of unpaid fines, refusal to appoint a legal representative, threatening the judge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago That’s it. You can’t receive a court order and ignore on the grounds of “I don’t think it’s legal”. The legal system is there to be used to make those calls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly because of how Xitter refused to block accounts accounts related to an insurrection at the Capitol, then ignored court orders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago To be clear to usinites: that’s the Jan 8 Brazilian capitol uprising, staged a year later and in copy of the orange one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago To be clear to usinites: that’s the Jan 8 Brazilian capitol uprising, staged a year later and in copy of the orange one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) That judge claims the people he wants banned from the platform are anti democracy and what not, but musk refused to comply. Its a complicated subject and my opinion is just that, my own opinion. That judge (most of them in fact) believe themselves to be all mighty, they interpret the law as they see fit and use their supreme court orders to do as they wish, when their role should be only to act as the highest instance of law in the country. Just today he also froze starlink's account in the country to charge fines from the twitter issue, that is not exactly the correct way to go about it, he is over stepping his powers. To be short: fuck Elon but the supreme court here is also crap and needs a reform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk. O think most people would say it os reasonable for a sex offender to be forbidden from being within 300 ft of a school zone. I would say that being banned from online forums like Twitter or Facebook is fair game for someone who lead an insurrection against their government. The punishment for that was a rope around the neck in most places until recently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago My problem isnt with the punishment, never was. My problem is how these judges have been dishing their own idea of justice and trampling over all other powers in a democracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk. O think most people would say it os reasonable for a sex offender to be forbidden from being within 300 ft of a school zone. I would say that being banned from online forums like Twitter or Facebook is fair game for someone who lead an insurrection against their government. The punishment for that was a rope around the neck in most places until recently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago My problem isnt with the punishment, never was. My problem is how these judges have been dishing their own idea of justice and trampling over all other powers in a democracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago My problem isnt with the punishment, never was. My problem is how these judges have been dishing their own idea of justice and trampling over all other powers in a democracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not removing misinformation posts, a large amount of unpaid fines, refusal to appoint a legal representative, threatening the judge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago That’s it. You can’t receive a court order and ignore on the grounds of “I don’t think it’s legal”. The legal system is there to be used to make those calls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago That’s it. You can’t receive a court order and ignore on the grounds of “I don’t think it’s legal”. The legal system is there to be used to make those calls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just out of curiosity: how is the blocking usually implemented? Do they block it via DNS, or is it more sophisticated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Is not nearly as common as you seem to imply, I have never had to deal with that kind of block in my life. It is being done by the isps themselves, thats all I know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Is not nearly as common as you seem to imply, I have never had to deal with that kind of block in my life. It is being done by the isps themselves, thats all I know permalink fedilink source parent