β² 132 βΌ France to ban female students from wearing abayas in state schools (www.bbc.com) submitted 2 years ago by AbaixoDeCao@lemm.ee to c/europe@feddit.de 242 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] letmesleep@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nude beaches? Sure thing. I In other words: Nudist "clothing" is banned from the entire public safe very few exceptions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Spain you are allowed to walk around naked on any public spaces, with very few exceptions. It doesn't happen very often in practice, but it's allowed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] letmesleep@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that is how you actually let people decide to wear what they want. Afaik Spain also doesn't have burqa ban or anything similar (at least not in general, there may be rules in special cases). I'm just always a bit annoyed when US-Americans criticise it when European countries ban certain clothing. They have rather draconian laws at home as well. And of course we're talking about schools here, hence school uniforms provide another relevant and rather widespread example of infringements on clothing-freedom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] letmesleep@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* I donβt think forcing people to wear any clothes is comparable to banning specific types of clothes. There are differences, but I'd actually argue that only banning very specific clothing is a lesser infraction on liberty. If you really want to be nude, you have to ditch clothing altogether. With specific garments there tends to be some wiggle room. E.g. you might try to adhere to your religious rules by wearing a wig and baggy clothing. Edit: I agree with you that it's based on the "offending portion" but that's the case with religious clothing in France. A lot of people there are offended by it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Spain you are allowed to walk around naked on any public spaces, with very few exceptions. It doesn't happen very often in practice, but it's allowed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] letmesleep@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that is how you actually let people decide to wear what they want. Afaik Spain also doesn't have burqa ban or anything similar (at least not in general, there may be rules in special cases). I'm just always a bit annoyed when US-Americans criticise it when European countries ban certain clothing. They have rather draconian laws at home as well. And of course we're talking about schools here, hence school uniforms provide another relevant and rather widespread example of infringements on clothing-freedom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] letmesleep@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* I donβt think forcing people to wear any clothes is comparable to banning specific types of clothes. There are differences, but I'd actually argue that only banning very specific clothing is a lesser infraction on liberty. If you really want to be nude, you have to ditch clothing altogether. With specific garments there tends to be some wiggle room. E.g. you might try to adhere to your religious rules by wearing a wig and baggy clothing. Edit: I agree with you that it's based on the "offending portion" but that's the case with religious clothing in France. A lot of people there are offended by it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] letmesleep@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that is how you actually let people decide to wear what they want. Afaik Spain also doesn't have burqa ban or anything similar (at least not in general, there may be rules in special cases). I'm just always a bit annoyed when US-Americans criticise it when European countries ban certain clothing. They have rather draconian laws at home as well. And of course we're talking about schools here, hence school uniforms provide another relevant and rather widespread example of infringements on clothing-freedom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] letmesleep@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* I donβt think forcing people to wear any clothes is comparable to banning specific types of clothes. There are differences, but I'd actually argue that only banning very specific clothing is a lesser infraction on liberty. If you really want to be nude, you have to ditch clothing altogether. With specific garments there tends to be some wiggle room. E.g. you might try to adhere to your religious rules by wearing a wig and baggy clothing. Edit: I agree with you that it's based on the "offending portion" but that's the case with religious clothing in France. A lot of people there are offended by it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lud@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] letmesleep@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* I donβt think forcing people to wear any clothes is comparable to banning specific types of clothes. There are differences, but I'd actually argue that only banning very specific clothing is a lesser infraction on liberty. If you really want to be nude, you have to ditch clothing altogether. With specific garments there tends to be some wiggle room. E.g. you might try to adhere to your religious rules by wearing a wig and baggy clothing. Edit: I agree with you that it's based on the "offending portion" but that's the case with religious clothing in France. A lot of people there are offended by it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] letmesleep@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* I donβt think forcing people to wear any clothes is comparable to banning specific types of clothes. There are differences, but I'd actually argue that only banning very specific clothing is a lesser infraction on liberty. If you really want to be nude, you have to ditch clothing altogether. With specific garments there tends to be some wiggle room. E.g. you might try to adhere to your religious rules by wearing a wig and baggy clothing. Edit: I agree with you that it's based on the "offending portion" but that's the case with religious clothing in France. A lot of people there are offended by it. permalink fedilink source parent