▲ -9 ▼ Victoria Nuland: Ukraine has “biological research facilities,” worried Russia may seize them | MR Online (mronline.org) submitted 3 years ago* by AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml [M] to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 23 comments fedilink hide all child comments Finally admits it after screaming Russian propaganda hih?
[–] Halce@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) Fake?! https://youtu.be/ydSf57SRtcQ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) You cannot target Russian DNA. For starters, it's very similar to Ukrainian DNA... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is functionally identical, given the close recent history between the two countries. For that matter, all humans are close, especially at a population level. People are trying to make this too complicated. Conventional weapons are perfectly capable of doing massive damage to an army without insane amounts of collateral damage, both to civilians and allies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago You won't believe what genocidal empire won't sign bioweapons control treaty https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt0901-793 permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) Organizations like CIA have a long history of pursuing precisely these kinds of insane ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You seem to know as much about genetics as you do about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yet, there's no actual evidence of any of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Seems too soon to claim that, we don't know what's in those labs and this will come out after the conflict is over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] guojing@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) The US doesnt care about sacrificing Ukrainians as long as they can hurt Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But Ukraine would, and the accusation is that this is being developed in Ukrainian labs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ukraine isn't a sovereign state, it's a puppet régime run by US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is, since 91, even Boris Yeltsin recognized Ukraine's independence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rysiek@szmer.info -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ok, I should have been more specific: the way it is often framed (and the way I have seen it framed, and how the linked article frames it) is as if these were US-affiliated labs working on bioweapons. That is not what Nuland said. Biological research facilities do not have to be bioweapons labs, just as explosives research facilities need not be arms manufacturers. Greenwald (the author of the linked article) of course does what Greenwald recently is hell-bent on doing, which is to try to scandalize anything he can. I used to respect the man, but that was a long while ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago These were bioweapons labs left over from USSR days, and US didn't take over these labs for any sort of altruistic purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) You cannot target Russian DNA. For starters, it's very similar to Ukrainian DNA... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is functionally identical, given the close recent history between the two countries. For that matter, all humans are close, especially at a population level. People are trying to make this too complicated. Conventional weapons are perfectly capable of doing massive damage to an army without insane amounts of collateral damage, both to civilians and allies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago You won't believe what genocidal empire won't sign bioweapons control treaty https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt0901-793 permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) Organizations like CIA have a long history of pursuing precisely these kinds of insane ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You seem to know as much about genetics as you do about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yet, there's no actual evidence of any of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Seems too soon to claim that, we don't know what's in those labs and this will come out after the conflict is over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] guojing@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) The US doesnt care about sacrificing Ukrainians as long as they can hurt Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But Ukraine would, and the accusation is that this is being developed in Ukrainian labs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ukraine isn't a sovereign state, it's a puppet régime run by US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is, since 91, even Boris Yeltsin recognized Ukraine's independence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is functionally identical, given the close recent history between the two countries. For that matter, all humans are close, especially at a population level. People are trying to make this too complicated. Conventional weapons are perfectly capable of doing massive damage to an army without insane amounts of collateral damage, both to civilians and allies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago You won't believe what genocidal empire won't sign bioweapons control treaty https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt0901-793 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago You won't believe what genocidal empire won't sign bioweapons control treaty https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt0901-793 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) Organizations like CIA have a long history of pursuing precisely these kinds of insane ideas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You seem to know as much about genetics as you do about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yet, there's no actual evidence of any of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Seems too soon to claim that, we don't know what's in those labs and this will come out after the conflict is over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You seem to know as much about genetics as you do about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yet, there's no actual evidence of any of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Seems too soon to claim that, we don't know what's in those labs and this will come out after the conflict is over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Seems too soon to claim that, we don't know what's in those labs and this will come out after the conflict is over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guojing@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) The US doesnt care about sacrificing Ukrainians as long as they can hurt Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But Ukraine would, and the accusation is that this is being developed in Ukrainian labs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ukraine isn't a sovereign state, it's a puppet régime run by US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is, since 91, even Boris Yeltsin recognized Ukraine's independence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But Ukraine would, and the accusation is that this is being developed in Ukrainian labs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ukraine isn't a sovereign state, it's a puppet régime run by US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is, since 91, even Boris Yeltsin recognized Ukraine's independence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ukraine isn't a sovereign state, it's a puppet régime run by US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is, since 91, even Boris Yeltsin recognized Ukraine's independence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is, since 91, even Boris Yeltsin recognized Ukraine's independence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Too bad the US didn't recognize Ukraine's independence and put in a puppet regime in 2014. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rysiek@szmer.info -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Ok, I should have been more specific: the way it is often framed (and the way I have seen it framed, and how the linked article frames it) is as if these were US-affiliated labs working on bioweapons. That is not what Nuland said. Biological research facilities do not have to be bioweapons labs, just as explosives research facilities need not be arms manufacturers. Greenwald (the author of the linked article) of course does what Greenwald recently is hell-bent on doing, which is to try to scandalize anything he can. I used to respect the man, but that was a long while ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago These were bioweapons labs left over from USSR days, and US didn't take over these labs for any sort of altruistic purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago These were bioweapons labs left over from USSR days, and US didn't take over these labs for any sort of altruistic purpose. permalink fedilink source parent