▲ 781 ▼ Uyghurs and Ukraine are great filters for figuring out who's actually a fascist (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 250 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean, yes, but generally you don't find support of Palestinian genocide in leftist groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the country. In Germany too many "leftists" simp for Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Noted for future reference. In the online anglosphere, I generally find self-proclaimed leftists almost always land on the side of Palestine over Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago They are called Anti-Deutsche (anti germans) or Anti-D for short and try very hard to mimic fundamental opposition while actually supporting Germany's foreign policy. Still there are even anti-D anarchists for example who want all states to fall but Israel last. Everything bad about Israel is bad about all states so why bother with Israel. It's a rabbit hole, it's wild. But a purely German phenomenon for reasons permalink fedilink source parent [–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* the political party i run with has issue with the slogan "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" as its voicing one side of the conflict, being propagandized by right wing Zionists furthering the divide of the working class of Israel. anyway i doubt many leftist use the slogan with ill-intent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Enkrod@feddit.org 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I dunno... many on the center-left? Yes, definitely! But don't give a false impression to @PugJesus@lemmy.world, hardcore leftists even here usually stick to the leftist Palestinian organizations. Like the socialist Palestinian Popular Struggle Front, the communist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the marxist-leninist Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the social-democratic, secular Fatah or their umbrella organization, the broadly leftist, secular PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) Obligatory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Then there's the entire, fairly big "Antideutsch" movement that labels itself as "far left" and "antifascist" but is heavily licking Israel's boots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Germans_(political_current) permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago There is a lot of antisemitism and support for Hamas (which is a fascist group) among so-called leftists. But maybe you've fallen into the same kind of trap as those that support Russia against Ukraine and deny the China is oppressing Uyghers. What method do you use to determine whether you're falling for a fascist narrative? permalink fedilink source parent [+] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -9 points 2 years ago i think they meant palestinian far lefty bros who think jews are bad. but ok. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the country. In Germany too many "leftists" simp for Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Noted for future reference. In the online anglosphere, I generally find self-proclaimed leftists almost always land on the side of Palestine over Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago They are called Anti-Deutsche (anti germans) or Anti-D for short and try very hard to mimic fundamental opposition while actually supporting Germany's foreign policy. Still there are even anti-D anarchists for example who want all states to fall but Israel last. Everything bad about Israel is bad about all states so why bother with Israel. It's a rabbit hole, it's wild. But a purely German phenomenon for reasons permalink fedilink source parent [–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* the political party i run with has issue with the slogan "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" as its voicing one side of the conflict, being propagandized by right wing Zionists furthering the divide of the working class of Israel. anyway i doubt many leftist use the slogan with ill-intent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Enkrod@feddit.org 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I dunno... many on the center-left? Yes, definitely! But don't give a false impression to @PugJesus@lemmy.world, hardcore leftists even here usually stick to the leftist Palestinian organizations. Like the socialist Palestinian Popular Struggle Front, the communist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the marxist-leninist Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the social-democratic, secular Fatah or their umbrella organization, the broadly leftist, secular PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) Obligatory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Then there's the entire, fairly big "Antideutsch" movement that labels itself as "far left" and "antifascist" but is heavily licking Israel's boots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Germans_(political_current) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Noted for future reference. In the online anglosphere, I generally find self-proclaimed leftists almost always land on the side of Palestine over Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago They are called Anti-Deutsche (anti germans) or Anti-D for short and try very hard to mimic fundamental opposition while actually supporting Germany's foreign policy. Still there are even anti-D anarchists for example who want all states to fall but Israel last. Everything bad about Israel is bad about all states so why bother with Israel. It's a rabbit hole, it's wild. But a purely German phenomenon for reasons permalink fedilink source parent [–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* the political party i run with has issue with the slogan "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" as its voicing one side of the conflict, being propagandized by right wing Zionists furthering the divide of the working class of Israel. anyway i doubt many leftist use the slogan with ill-intent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago They are called Anti-Deutsche (anti germans) or Anti-D for short and try very hard to mimic fundamental opposition while actually supporting Germany's foreign policy. Still there are even anti-D anarchists for example who want all states to fall but Israel last. Everything bad about Israel is bad about all states so why bother with Israel. It's a rabbit hole, it's wild. But a purely German phenomenon for reasons permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* the political party i run with has issue with the slogan "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" as its voicing one side of the conflict, being propagandized by right wing Zionists furthering the divide of the working class of Israel. anyway i doubt many leftist use the slogan with ill-intent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I dunno... many on the center-left? Yes, definitely! But don't give a false impression to @PugJesus@lemmy.world, hardcore leftists even here usually stick to the leftist Palestinian organizations. Like the socialist Palestinian Popular Struggle Front, the communist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the marxist-leninist Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the social-democratic, secular Fatah or their umbrella organization, the broadly leftist, secular PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) Obligatory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Then there's the entire, fairly big "Antideutsch" movement that labels itself as "far left" and "antifascist" but is heavily licking Israel's boots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Germans_(political_current) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Then there's the entire, fairly big "Antideutsch" movement that labels itself as "far left" and "antifascist" but is heavily licking Israel's boots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Germans_(political_current) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago There is a lot of antisemitism and support for Hamas (which is a fascist group) among so-called leftists. But maybe you've fallen into the same kind of trap as those that support Russia against Ukraine and deny the China is oppressing Uyghers. What method do you use to determine whether you're falling for a fascist narrative? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -9 points 2 years ago i think they meant palestinian far lefty bros who think jews are bad. but ok. permalink fedilink source parent
