▲ 781 ▼ Uyghurs and Ukraine are great filters for figuring out who's actually a fascist (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 250 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 148 points 2 years ago (1 child) A great way to tell if they mean "anti-imperialist" as "against the conquering and subjugating of other groups" or instead just "in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe." permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, more so when going against Russia and China. They peddle propaganda like a farmer flings manure on their field. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 2 years ago in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe. make this the primary pillar of your politics and you’ll be right 90% of the time. Yeah, oppose those degenerate effeminate globalhomo Westerners, king! 👑👑👑👑👑 permalink fedilink source parent [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imperial Japan rather famously fought against the United States and various Western European colonial powers. Had you lived back during the second world war era, would you have viewed them favorably? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn't to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn't still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn't like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who's interests happen to be misaligned with the first one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%? Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%? Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%? Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%? Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, more so when going against Russia and China. They peddle propaganda like a farmer flings manure on their field. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 2 years ago in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe. make this the primary pillar of your politics and you’ll be right 90% of the time. Yeah, oppose those degenerate effeminate globalhomo Westerners, king! 👑👑👑👑👑 permalink fedilink source parent [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imperial Japan rather famously fought against the United States and various Western European colonial powers. Had you lived back during the second world war era, would you have viewed them favorably? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn't to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn't still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn't like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who's interests happen to be misaligned with the first one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%? Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%? Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%? Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%? Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, more so when going against Russia and China. They peddle propaganda like a farmer flings manure on their field. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 2 years ago in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe. make this the primary pillar of your politics and you’ll be right 90% of the time. Yeah, oppose those degenerate effeminate globalhomo Westerners, king! 👑👑👑👑👑 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imperial Japan rather famously fought against the United States and various Western European colonial powers. Had you lived back during the second world war era, would you have viewed them favorably? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn't to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn't still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn't like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who's interests happen to be misaligned with the first one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%? Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%? Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%? Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%? Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn't to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn't still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn't like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who's interests happen to be misaligned with the first one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%? Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%? Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%? Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%? Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn't to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn't still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn't like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who's interests happen to be misaligned with the first one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you'd react to an actual fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%? Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%? Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%? Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%? Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%? permalink fedilink source parent
