▲ 631 ▼ The difference of stealing yourself vs being stolen from (lemm.ee) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by fer0n@lemm.ee to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 249 comments fedilink hide all child comments First article | Second article
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) without the good, or the (hu)man(ity) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (3 children) There's no version of this reality where Jobs isn't a good businessman. You might not like the company or their products, but they've somehow managed to build a huge and successful business selling those overpriced toys to tons of people. They managed to create a cult around expensive consumer electronics. That is a massive success no matter how you slice it. And you can't deny that Jobs played a big part in that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The weird thing is that Apple without Jobs was a failure, but also Jobs without Apple was also a failure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) it was just a gag for comic effect. it wasn't the breadth and depth of my thoughts and feelings of the digital and manufacturing epochs since the 1980s. But also, it was kind of begging the question of "is there such thing as a good business man?" There's good for /their/ business. But is that- in general - good? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* Does the current head of Larian Studios count as a businessman? If so, that's one I would consider good for the company AND the consumers permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Also you can tie it directly to Jobs, because when he was gone for a bit, apple fuckin tanked, and then he came back and they came out with the iPod. That's not an accident. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (3 children) There's no version of this reality where Jobs isn't a good businessman. You might not like the company or their products, but they've somehow managed to build a huge and successful business selling those overpriced toys to tons of people. They managed to create a cult around expensive consumer electronics. That is a massive success no matter how you slice it. And you can't deny that Jobs played a big part in that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The weird thing is that Apple without Jobs was a failure, but also Jobs without Apple was also a failure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) it was just a gag for comic effect. it wasn't the breadth and depth of my thoughts and feelings of the digital and manufacturing epochs since the 1980s. But also, it was kind of begging the question of "is there such thing as a good business man?" There's good for /their/ business. But is that- in general - good? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* Does the current head of Larian Studios count as a businessman? If so, that's one I would consider good for the company AND the consumers permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Also you can tie it directly to Jobs, because when he was gone for a bit, apple fuckin tanked, and then he came back and they came out with the iPod. That's not an accident. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The weird thing is that Apple without Jobs was a failure, but also Jobs without Apple was also a failure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) it was just a gag for comic effect. it wasn't the breadth and depth of my thoughts and feelings of the digital and manufacturing epochs since the 1980s. But also, it was kind of begging the question of "is there such thing as a good business man?" There's good for /their/ business. But is that- in general - good? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* Does the current head of Larian Studios count as a businessman? If so, that's one I would consider good for the company AND the consumers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* Does the current head of Larian Studios count as a businessman? If so, that's one I would consider good for the company AND the consumers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Also you can tie it directly to Jobs, because when he was gone for a bit, apple fuckin tanked, and then he came back and they came out with the iPod. That's not an accident. permalink fedilink source parent
