▲ 4 ▼ US intelligence report says China likely supplying tech for Russian military (www.reuters.com) submitted 3 years ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/794993 Archived version: https://archive.ph/YHzBc Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230728005938/https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-report-says-china-likely-supplying-tech-russian-military-2023-07-27/
[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) Isn't the USA supplying cluster bombs to Ukraine? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kimpilled@infosec.pub 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yep, and that’s a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) American cluster bombs are still killing children in Laos. They're a stupid weapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Russia invaded Laos?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah but it is not suitable for rage inducing title, so they choose China instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) The double standards and american exceptionalism of the people that post CNN/WaPo/NYT news articles on foreign events... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) Russia is the aggressor and the US stands with Ukraine and helps them. China pretends to be ‘neutral’ in a war so glaringly having a country violate the sovereignty of Ukraine but then secretly support the aggressor. What is so difficult to understand? Or do you purposefully try to muddy the waters by invoking “whatabout…?” and see if the countries supporting Ukraine could be slandered? This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated. The fact you feel the need to point in all directions and try to steer attention away from where we should be paying attention to is in itself a despicable act, only the logical conclusion I am left with is that you somehow feel aligned with russia and it’s war path against others. You created a moral outrage where other should feel bad but the only thing you have truly done is put a stain on your character. Pathetic and shameful to be basically rooting for russia at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth. Who will support victims of American agression? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago You're not wrong... This is just more whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion You're just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don't have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from. And no I don't have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 3 years ago* You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere. The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters. Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago That's a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs... permalink fedilink source parent [–] BROOT@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is saying that close military allies are supporting each other ‘AmErIcAn ExCePtIoNaLiSm’? Fuck off back to lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pili@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) He is on lemmygrad, that's how federation works. If you want to be in a neoliberal echo chamber, you should move to beehaw. Or back to reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Pretty weird to talk about echo chambers when someone's calling out zero value circlejerk comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kimpilled@infosec.pub 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yep, and that’s a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) American cluster bombs are still killing children in Laos. They're a stupid weapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Russia invaded Laos?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) American cluster bombs are still killing children in Laos. They're a stupid weapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Russia invaded Laos?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah but it is not suitable for rage inducing title, so they choose China instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) The double standards and american exceptionalism of the people that post CNN/WaPo/NYT news articles on foreign events... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) Russia is the aggressor and the US stands with Ukraine and helps them. China pretends to be ‘neutral’ in a war so glaringly having a country violate the sovereignty of Ukraine but then secretly support the aggressor. What is so difficult to understand? Or do you purposefully try to muddy the waters by invoking “whatabout…?” and see if the countries supporting Ukraine could be slandered? This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated. The fact you feel the need to point in all directions and try to steer attention away from where we should be paying attention to is in itself a despicable act, only the logical conclusion I am left with is that you somehow feel aligned with russia and it’s war path against others. You created a moral outrage where other should feel bad but the only thing you have truly done is put a stain on your character. Pathetic and shameful to be basically rooting for russia at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth. Who will support victims of American agression? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago You're not wrong... This is just more whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion You're just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don't have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from. And no I don't have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 3 years ago* You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere. The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters. Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago That's a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs... permalink fedilink source parent [–] BROOT@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is saying that close military allies are supporting each other ‘AmErIcAn ExCePtIoNaLiSm’? Fuck off back to lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pili@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) He is on lemmygrad, that's how federation works. If you want to be in a neoliberal echo chamber, you should move to beehaw. Or back to reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Pretty weird to talk about echo chambers when someone's calling out zero value circlejerk comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) The double standards and american exceptionalism of the people that post CNN/WaPo/NYT news articles on foreign events... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) Russia is the aggressor and the US stands with Ukraine and helps them. China pretends to be ‘neutral’ in a war so glaringly having a country violate the sovereignty of Ukraine but then secretly support the aggressor. What is so difficult to understand? Or do you purposefully try to muddy the waters by invoking “whatabout…?” and see if the countries supporting Ukraine could be slandered? This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated. The fact you feel the need to point in all directions and try to steer attention away from where we should be paying attention to is in itself a despicable act, only the logical conclusion I am left with is that you somehow feel aligned with russia and it’s war path against others. You created a moral outrage where other should feel bad but the only thing you have truly done is put a stain on your character. Pathetic and shameful to be basically rooting for russia at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth. Who will support victims of American agression? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago You're not wrong... This is just more whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion You're just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don't have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from. And no I don't have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 3 years ago* You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere. The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters. Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago That's a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs... permalink fedilink source parent [–] BROOT@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is saying that close military allies are supporting each other ‘AmErIcAn ExCePtIoNaLiSm’? Fuck off back to lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pili@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) He is on lemmygrad, that's how federation works. If you want to be in a neoliberal echo chamber, you should move to beehaw. Or back to reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Pretty weird to talk about echo chambers when someone's calling out zero value circlejerk comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) Russia is the aggressor and the US stands with Ukraine and helps them. China pretends to be ‘neutral’ in a war so glaringly having a country violate the sovereignty of Ukraine but then secretly support the aggressor. What is so difficult to understand? Or do you purposefully try to muddy the waters by invoking “whatabout…?” and see if the countries supporting Ukraine could be slandered? This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated. The fact you feel the need to point in all directions and try to steer attention away from where we should be paying attention to is in itself a despicable act, only the logical conclusion I am left with is that you somehow feel aligned with russia and it’s war path against others. You created a moral outrage where other should feel bad but the only thing you have truly done is put a stain on your character. Pathetic and shameful to be basically rooting for russia at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth. Who will support victims of American agression? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago You're not wrong... This is just more whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion You're just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don't have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from. And no I don't have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 3 years ago* You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere. The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters. Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago That's a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth. Who will support victims of American agression? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago You're not wrong... This is just more whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago You're not wrong... This is just more whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion You're just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don't have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from. And no I don't have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 3 years ago* You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere. The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters. Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 3 years ago* You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere. The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters. Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago That's a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BROOT@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is saying that close military allies are supporting each other ‘AmErIcAn ExCePtIoNaLiSm’? Fuck off back to lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pili@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) He is on lemmygrad, that's how federation works. If you want to be in a neoliberal echo chamber, you should move to beehaw. Or back to reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Pretty weird to talk about echo chambers when someone's calling out zero value circlejerk comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pili@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) He is on lemmygrad, that's how federation works. If you want to be in a neoliberal echo chamber, you should move to beehaw. Or back to reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steltek@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Pretty weird to talk about echo chambers when someone's calling out zero value circlejerk comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steltek@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Pretty weird to talk about echo chambers when someone's calling out zero value circlejerk comments. permalink fedilink source parent