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Come for the memes, stay for the tax advice (aussie.zone)
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[–] 184 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Didn't Jesus say something along the lines of "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"? Sounds to me like he was pro taxes.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago

    Matthew 22:20,21: He said to them: “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said: “Caesar’s.” Then he said to them: “Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.”

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    He probably didn't want to get crucified for encouraging tax evasion.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You are really crossing a line here with your comment!

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I thought he kinda nailed it

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Duh, because in the Bible he was crucified for blasphemy so if he ended up crucified for tax evasion the whole story would have fallen apart.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Didn't stop fundamentalists from retroactivity trying to create links of "prophecy" all throughout the OT for shit that wasn't even remotely related or intended as such.

    They'd just have claimed he wasn't killed for tax evasion, no problems there for the fundies.

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  • [+] -28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No he didn't. That line was added at the Council of Nicea a couple of hundred years later

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Source?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My A-Level in biblical criticism thirty years ago. Sorry, I don't have the notes any more. Maybe google can help?

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  • [+] -40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s

    except that's not what taxes are - taxes are citizens money going in to a pot to pay for things citizens need.
    Also doesn't sound like something Jesus would say (in the context being portrayed) considering how much he hated the rich and their greed (to be clear, I'm not even christian, but this is well known).
    Either way, some rich fuck trying to claim them for themsleves (or whoever added it later to serve the ruler of the time) doesn't change what taxes are.

    I love people so deliberately missing the point.. Fuck Jesus and what he did or didn't say, taxes aren't for and don't belong to the ruler of a country/community/whatever, no matter what that ruler tells you, it really isn't that fucking complicated.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Also doesn't sound like something Jesus would say

    It is literally something he said, after specifically being asked about paying taxes.

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  • [+] -15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Someone else said this line was a later addition.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And as someone ELSE else pointed out, EVERY Jesus line was a later addition.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If we're taking that route, we ought to end the discussion right now.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Okeydoke. Have a nice nice day

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just saying, if it's all made up, there's no room for discussion, because there's no truth to discuss

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I agree: as far as truth goes, the bible has none to discuss 🤷

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I agree it's all made up. I treat it as if it's Lord of the Rings. When i say "Jesus actually said this", it's as if I'm saying "Gandalf actually said this, in The Two Towers".

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  • [+] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago*

    What other route even is there?

    Either you discount things added later, so you discount everything and there is nothing left. Or you don't discount things just because they were added later, in which case this quote still stands.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can go now.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think you may have gotten the wrong impression. I wasn't telling you to shut up.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Then maybe choose your words better.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Is it right for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” He saw through their duplicity and said to them, “Show me a denarius. Whose image and inscription are on it?”“Caesar’s,” they replied. He said to them, “Then give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” Luke 20 NIV

    It's pretty clear they're taking about taxes.

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