▲ 48 ▼ Immigrants Are Becoming U.S. Citizens at Fastest Clip in Years: The government has reduced a backlog of applications that built up during the Trump administration. New citizens look forward to voting (www.nytimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz 15 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/12316771 It's amazing what the threat of mass deportation will do
[+] cisco87@programming.dev -25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 30 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is naturalization of people who have been in the US for a long time already. So they've already got jobs, housing, and legitimate visas. But you look to be interested in pushing hate, not having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the standard language of malice. I'm not charitable when I see that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let’s agree that they’re hateful and stupid then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago First thought as I read your comment was por que no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don't even know what the other guy said exactly, but based on context I agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cisco87@programming.dev -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the fact that perfectly legal naturalization of people living, working, and being productive members of their community is somehow going to destroy America. That seems like some unfounded hate you're spreading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Claiming that naturalization of people who already live in the US will "destroy societies" is absolutely pushing hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society. The latter is hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc? You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously? permalink fedilink source parent [–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Oh so now we are against legal immigration? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 30 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This is naturalization of people who have been in the US for a long time already. So they've already got jobs, housing, and legitimate visas. But you look to be interested in pushing hate, not having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the standard language of malice. I'm not charitable when I see that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let’s agree that they’re hateful and stupid then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago First thought as I read your comment was por que no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don't even know what the other guy said exactly, but based on context I agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cisco87@programming.dev -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the fact that perfectly legal naturalization of people living, working, and being productive members of their community is somehow going to destroy America. That seems like some unfounded hate you're spreading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Claiming that naturalization of people who already live in the US will "destroy societies" is absolutely pushing hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society. The latter is hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc? You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the standard language of malice. I'm not charitable when I see that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let’s agree that they’re hateful and stupid then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago First thought as I read your comment was por que no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the standard language of malice. I'm not charitable when I see that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let’s agree that they’re hateful and stupid then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago First thought as I read your comment was por que no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let’s agree that they’re hateful and stupid then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago First thought as I read your comment was por que no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago First thought as I read your comment was por que no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don't even know what the other guy said exactly, but based on context I agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cisco87@programming.dev -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the fact that perfectly legal naturalization of people living, working, and being productive members of their community is somehow going to destroy America. That seems like some unfounded hate you're spreading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Claiming that naturalization of people who already live in the US will "destroy societies" is absolutely pushing hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society. The latter is hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc? You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the fact that perfectly legal naturalization of people living, working, and being productive members of their community is somehow going to destroy America. That seems like some unfounded hate you're spreading. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Claiming that naturalization of people who already live in the US will "destroy societies" is absolutely pushing hate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society. The latter is hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc? You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cisco87@programming.dev -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society. The latter is hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc? You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society. The latter is hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cisco87@programming.dev -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards. I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens. If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop trying to justify your hate speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cisco87@programming.dev -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc? You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Oh so now we are against legal immigration? permalink fedilink source parent