The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet was among five people who died when the Titan submersible implodedduring a voyage to the famed Titanic wreck site in the North Atlantic in June 2023. No one survived the trip aboard the experimental submersible owned by OceanGate, a company in Washington state that has since suspended operations.

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[–] 68 points 2 years ago (6 children)

FWIW, using game controllers is a reasonable thing to do. that game controller? Naw. But a good PS controller? Sure. Xbox? Alright. Nintendo? Only if it’s that weird N64 one.

If you stop and think about it, they’re compact, reliable and comfortable to use. Major consoles invest a relative shit ton of cash into developing it; and there’s plenty of drivers for whatever system you’re using.

There were a lot of straight up stupid design choices, but that wasn’t one of them. (Though their specific choice in controllers… yeah let’s mock that. It’s a terrible controller.)

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure the US military adopted the use of Xbox 360 controllers for a lot of things as well, because of the reasons you mentioned.

    Ergonomic, comfortable in the hands, intuitive.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is it just me, or does anyone else also do a double-take to this day every time somebody calls an Xbox controller "ergonomic," because they think back to the original? It's especially memorable to me because of how Penny Arcade lampooned it:

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  • I would say exactly the opposite. There's nothing wrong with that game controller as a game controller. Logitech's pads were the gold standard for PC game controllers for years before XInput was released, and the F710 carried that design process forward well into the XInput era. It also has the advantage of having a dedicated wireless channel instead of relying on Bluetooth, which lowers latency and reduces the chance of pairing issues.

    But no game controller should have been used to control a submarine at depth with people inside. It is not what they are built for.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I get what you're saying, but I would also suggest that submarines going down to the Titanic should probably not risk being built with off-the-shelf parts.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Custom components are more likely to be poorly tested, and to fail. The drivers are more likely to be unstable.

    Off the shelf components are far less likely to have defects in them, far more heavily tested, and to be designed by people who specialize in designing that one thing, with far better documentation available.

    Unless of course you’re buying them used off eBay for 10 bucks.

    Personally, I would have gone with a Logitech G56 HOTAS set up. You don’t necessarily need all those buttons, but the drivers are designed to allow you to easily customize them (including with custom curves.) and the stick would give you 3 axis control (twist for use,)

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