▲ 158 ▼ In a historic about-face, Apple publicly supports right-to-repair bill (grist.org) submitted 3 years ago by 111@zerobytes.monster to c/technology@lemmy.ml 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) That would be great. But Apple has fused all these things together on the motherboard so that … well … they can only be replace outright vs repaired. I don’t mind cpu / mobo fusing but storage and ram is just a kick in the ass. It really is a shame. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Things that are soldered can be desoldered and replaced, provided the parts are available. And soldering them to the board has benefits: RAM - higher performance because chips are closer to the CPU storage - space efficiency I personally would rather have a slightly thicker laptop and get user replaceable NVMe drives, and memory performance isn't super critical for me, but as long as the parts are available on the market for a reasonable price, I'm satisfied as far as repairability goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) the debate is could vs should permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago* Maybe for storage, but I've heard the RAM proximity is a significant part of why M1 is faster than Intel CPUs in benchmarks Regardless, we shouldn't be fighting to force manufacturers to make products easier to repair, we should be fighting to make sure all parts needed to do a repair are available, and that should include software and all chips on a board. They don't need to sell those parts forever, just have them available for the life of the product (e.g. as long as the device is being sold or warrantied by the manufacturer). And they don't need to sell the parts themselves, only allow third parties to buy parts from theirb suppliers. Once we have that, we can discuss repair-hostile design. But as long as parts aren't available, there's not really a point to forcing manufacturers to make it easier to make repairs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Things that are soldered can be desoldered and replaced, provided the parts are available. And soldering them to the board has benefits: RAM - higher performance because chips are closer to the CPU storage - space efficiency I personally would rather have a slightly thicker laptop and get user replaceable NVMe drives, and memory performance isn't super critical for me, but as long as the parts are available on the market for a reasonable price, I'm satisfied as far as repairability goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) the debate is could vs should permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago* Maybe for storage, but I've heard the RAM proximity is a significant part of why M1 is faster than Intel CPUs in benchmarks Regardless, we shouldn't be fighting to force manufacturers to make products easier to repair, we should be fighting to make sure all parts needed to do a repair are available, and that should include software and all chips on a board. They don't need to sell those parts forever, just have them available for the life of the product (e.g. as long as the device is being sold or warrantied by the manufacturer). And they don't need to sell the parts themselves, only allow third parties to buy parts from theirb suppliers. Once we have that, we can discuss repair-hostile design. But as long as parts aren't available, there's not really a point to forcing manufacturers to make it easier to make repairs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) the debate is could vs should permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago* Maybe for storage, but I've heard the RAM proximity is a significant part of why M1 is faster than Intel CPUs in benchmarks Regardless, we shouldn't be fighting to force manufacturers to make products easier to repair, we should be fighting to make sure all parts needed to do a repair are available, and that should include software and all chips on a board. They don't need to sell those parts forever, just have them available for the life of the product (e.g. as long as the device is being sold or warrantied by the manufacturer). And they don't need to sell the parts themselves, only allow third parties to buy parts from theirb suppliers. Once we have that, we can discuss repair-hostile design. But as long as parts aren't available, there's not really a point to forcing manufacturers to make it easier to make repairs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago* Maybe for storage, but I've heard the RAM proximity is a significant part of why M1 is faster than Intel CPUs in benchmarks Regardless, we shouldn't be fighting to force manufacturers to make products easier to repair, we should be fighting to make sure all parts needed to do a repair are available, and that should include software and all chips on a board. They don't need to sell those parts forever, just have them available for the life of the product (e.g. as long as the device is being sold or warrantied by the manufacturer). And they don't need to sell the parts themselves, only allow third parties to buy parts from theirb suppliers. Once we have that, we can discuss repair-hostile design. But as long as parts aren't available, there's not really a point to forcing manufacturers to make it easier to make repairs. permalink fedilink source parent