▲ 367 ▼ Which European language am I reading (jlai.lu) submitted 2 years ago* by Camus@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/yurop@lemm.ee 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/9070854 Source : https://tech.lgbt/@pierogiburo/112875137520784379
[–] debil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nice touch including esperanto. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tweeks@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I tried learning Esperanto through Duolingo, but was a bit disappointed. It was still a bit inconsistent here and there; I was hoping for a 'perfect' language without exceptions. Still think it's a great initiative though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] debil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, it's not flawless. My personal pet peeve is that there's no clear way to know if a verb is transitive or intransitive. Despite the shortcomings, it's a fun and rewarding language to learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) At least once you know if it's intransitive or not you can make it the opposite by suffix -igi or -iĝi. It is a neat language, especially with the history it has by now, but as much I as like it I don't think it will ever catch on widely. And I don't think it's even possible to construct a language that's easy, consistent, and with wide appeal and adoption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] debil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Agreed. I think it could've been solved better. Although excessive use of -igi/-iĝi can make the language sound duller, so I guess it's just what it is and that's it at this point. IMO, Esperanto could be used at schools as a "gateway language" to language learning in general. It's simple and as logical as can be in grammar and syntax. The vocabulary stems mostly from Latin based languages so learning the most common root words help students build up their vortarojn for other languages as well. That sort of utilitarian approach to E-o, instead of the more traditional, ideological approach could bring it more popularity. But I'm no teacher so this is likely not happening. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Esperanto also has the hideous ĥ which to my knowledge no other language has, but it’s not very common so it’s usually not something you can identify it by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ĥaoso manĝu vin, fiulo! Estas la plej bona litero ĥ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ne ekzistas maniero meti ĉapelon sur h-on, kiu ne malbelas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oni povus uzi ħ, la konstanto de Planck el fiziko, tio belegas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Mojose! Sed ĝi ne estas sur mia klavaro... permalink fedilink source parent [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What sound does that make? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [x], a sound that isn’t in most varieties of English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I tried learning Esperanto through Duolingo, but was a bit disappointed. It was still a bit inconsistent here and there; I was hoping for a 'perfect' language without exceptions. Still think it's a great initiative though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] debil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, it's not flawless. My personal pet peeve is that there's no clear way to know if a verb is transitive or intransitive. Despite the shortcomings, it's a fun and rewarding language to learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) At least once you know if it's intransitive or not you can make it the opposite by suffix -igi or -iĝi. It is a neat language, especially with the history it has by now, but as much I as like it I don't think it will ever catch on widely. And I don't think it's even possible to construct a language that's easy, consistent, and with wide appeal and adoption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] debil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Agreed. I think it could've been solved better. Although excessive use of -igi/-iĝi can make the language sound duller, so I guess it's just what it is and that's it at this point. IMO, Esperanto could be used at schools as a "gateway language" to language learning in general. It's simple and as logical as can be in grammar and syntax. The vocabulary stems mostly from Latin based languages so learning the most common root words help students build up their vortarojn for other languages as well. That sort of utilitarian approach to E-o, instead of the more traditional, ideological approach could bring it more popularity. But I'm no teacher so this is likely not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] debil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, it's not flawless. My personal pet peeve is that there's no clear way to know if a verb is transitive or intransitive. Despite the shortcomings, it's a fun and rewarding language to learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) At least once you know if it's intransitive or not you can make it the opposite by suffix -igi or -iĝi. It is a neat language, especially with the history it has by now, but as much I as like it I don't think it will ever catch on widely. And I don't think it's even possible to construct a language that's easy, consistent, and with wide appeal and adoption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] debil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Agreed. I think it could've been solved better. Although excessive use of -igi/-iĝi can make the language sound duller, so I guess it's just what it is and that's it at this point. IMO, Esperanto could be used at schools as a "gateway language" to language learning in general. It's simple and as logical as can be in grammar and syntax. The vocabulary stems mostly from Latin based languages so learning the most common root words help students build up their vortarojn for other languages as well. That sort of utilitarian approach to E-o, instead of the more traditional, ideological approach could bring it more popularity. But I'm no teacher so this is likely not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) At least once you know if it's intransitive or not you can make it the opposite by suffix -igi or -iĝi. It is a neat language, especially with the history it has by now, but as much I as like it I don't think it will ever catch on widely. And I don't think it's even possible to construct a language that's easy, consistent, and with wide appeal and adoption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] debil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Agreed. I think it could've been solved better. Although excessive use of -igi/-iĝi can make the language sound duller, so I guess it's just what it is and that's it at this point. IMO, Esperanto could be used at schools as a "gateway language" to language learning in general. It's simple and as logical as can be in grammar and syntax. The vocabulary stems mostly from Latin based languages so learning the most common root words help students build up their vortarojn for other languages as well. That sort of utilitarian approach to E-o, instead of the more traditional, ideological approach could bring it more popularity. But I'm no teacher so this is likely not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] debil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Agreed. I think it could've been solved better. Although excessive use of -igi/-iĝi can make the language sound duller, so I guess it's just what it is and that's it at this point. IMO, Esperanto could be used at schools as a "gateway language" to language learning in general. It's simple and as logical as can be in grammar and syntax. The vocabulary stems mostly from Latin based languages so learning the most common root words help students build up their vortarojn for other languages as well. That sort of utilitarian approach to E-o, instead of the more traditional, ideological approach could bring it more popularity. But I'm no teacher so this is likely not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Esperanto also has the hideous ĥ which to my knowledge no other language has, but it’s not very common so it’s usually not something you can identify it by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ĥaoso manĝu vin, fiulo! Estas la plej bona litero ĥ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ne ekzistas maniero meti ĉapelon sur h-on, kiu ne malbelas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oni povus uzi ħ, la konstanto de Planck el fiziko, tio belegas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Mojose! Sed ĝi ne estas sur mia klavaro... permalink fedilink source parent [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What sound does that make? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [x], a sound that isn’t in most varieties of English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ĥaoso manĝu vin, fiulo! Estas la plej bona litero ĥ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ne ekzistas maniero meti ĉapelon sur h-on, kiu ne malbelas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oni povus uzi ħ, la konstanto de Planck el fiziko, tio belegas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Mojose! Sed ĝi ne estas sur mia klavaro... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ne ekzistas maniero meti ĉapelon sur h-on, kiu ne malbelas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oni povus uzi ħ, la konstanto de Planck el fiziko, tio belegas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Mojose! Sed ĝi ne estas sur mia klavaro... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VitaminF@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oni povus uzi ħ, la konstanto de Planck el fiziko, tio belegas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Mojose! Sed ĝi ne estas sur mia klavaro... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Mojose! Sed ĝi ne estas sur mia klavaro... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What sound does that make? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [x], a sound that isn’t in most varieties of English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [x], a sound that isn’t in most varieties of English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent