▲ 379 ▼ Indie developer behind 'Overwhelmingly Positive' rated shipbuilder argues that Steam's "free advertising" is worth the 30% cut (www.gamesradar.com) submitted 2 years ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works [M] to c/games@sh.itjust.works 115 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Again, that's because every other way to distribute games is terrible. And it doesn't really matter, because any sales you actually drive yourself you can give them 0% of, with free steam keys. Sales through their storefront are inherently partly driven by their value add. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course it's relevant. It's why the PC market is what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Valve controls the PC market because they created the PC market and are responsible for the overwhelming majority of its progress. And they have done nothing remotely abusive with it. They've justified their cut and are fully entitled to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent [+] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago This is an anecdote, but it is also absolutely not speculation. I won't install Epic, I avoid most AAA launchers/required accounts, prefer GOG, and get most of my games on Steam. Epic and many other studio launcher apps are hostile to the consumers or just a royal pain to use. I have a couple Sony games. Why should I have to be online to play a 20-year-old single-player game that I bought through Steam? So now I check if they have that garbage before I buy them through Steam. I think Steam could afford to charge less, but I don't think most smaller companies could get a basic store up for less than they charge (and the big companies have the tools to determine if thos is saving them money), and that still doesn't get you everything Steam brings to the table, consumer confidence being the most important. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Again, that's because every other way to distribute games is terrible. And it doesn't really matter, because any sales you actually drive yourself you can give them 0% of, with free steam keys. Sales through their storefront are inherently partly driven by their value add. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course it's relevant. It's why the PC market is what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Valve controls the PC market because they created the PC market and are responsible for the overwhelming majority of its progress. And they have done nothing remotely abusive with it. They've justified their cut and are fully entitled to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent [+] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course it's relevant. It's why the PC market is what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Valve controls the PC market because they created the PC market and are responsible for the overwhelming majority of its progress. And they have done nothing remotely abusive with it. They've justified their cut and are fully entitled to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent [+] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course it's relevant. It's why the PC market is what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Valve controls the PC market because they created the PC market and are responsible for the overwhelming majority of its progress. And they have done nothing remotely abusive with it. They've justified their cut and are fully entitled to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Valve controls the PC market because they created the PC market and are responsible for the overwhelming majority of its progress. And they have done nothing remotely abusive with it. They've justified their cut and are fully entitled to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Valve controls the PC market because they created the PC market and are responsible for the overwhelming majority of its progress. And they have done nothing remotely abusive with it. They've justified their cut and are fully entitled to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are entitled to a fair cut of sales through their platform. That's how platforms work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago You're the one disqualifying the huge service they're providing. They're exactly as entitled to their cut of sales on their platform as the developers of the games are to get paid for their game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago This is an anecdote, but it is also absolutely not speculation. I won't install Epic, I avoid most AAA launchers/required accounts, prefer GOG, and get most of my games on Steam. Epic and many other studio launcher apps are hostile to the consumers or just a royal pain to use. I have a couple Sony games. Why should I have to be online to play a 20-year-old single-player game that I bought through Steam? So now I check if they have that garbage before I buy them through Steam. I think Steam could afford to charge less, but I don't think most smaller companies could get a basic store up for less than they charge (and the big companies have the tools to determine if thos is saving them money), and that still doesn't get you everything Steam brings to the table, consumer confidence being the most important. permalink fedilink source parent