▲ 431 ▼ Samsung delivers 600-mile solid-state EV battery as it teases 9-minute charging and 20-year lifespan tech (www.notebookcheck.net) submitted 2 years ago by SeaJ@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) What material is inside? These articles call it "oxide" but what exactly is it? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] aramova@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Things which oxidized. Seriously I hate articles like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 point 2 years ago Technically water is just Hydrogen-oxide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SeaJ@lemm.ee [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately the source does not seem to indicate what Samsung is using. https://www.thelec.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=29222 It does say that LG will be producing a sulfide based electrolyte. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago the source does not seem to indicate LOL that's why I wrote my question, smartie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also, what is a "solid state" battery anyway? A capacitor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) it's still a Li-ion (like most current rechargeables) but the electrolyte - the medium that transfers the ions from the anode to the cathode - (the + and -) inside the battery is made of a solid material instead of the current gen liquid ones. The benefits are less weight/size (as liquids take up more space than solids) and a more stable composition - the liquid electrolyte can't leak - the way batteries get gunky and corroded if left for a while permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And if I understand correctly, they are safer because there is less chance of parts touching inside. I don't know the correct t terminology, but one of the big problems with current li-ion batteries is that if they get physically damaged, parts inside can touch, which basically starts a short/chain reaction that turns into a dangerous thermal runaway. Also if I remember correctly the guy that invented li-ion invented some kind of solid state battery with glass right before he died. I'm assuming this technology stems from that. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Knowledge is power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aramova@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Things which oxidized. Seriously I hate articles like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 point 2 years ago Technically water is just Hydrogen-oxide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 point 2 years ago Technically water is just Hydrogen-oxide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately the source does not seem to indicate what Samsung is using. https://www.thelec.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=29222 It does say that LG will be producing a sulfide based electrolyte. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago the source does not seem to indicate LOL that's why I wrote my question, smartie. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago the source does not seem to indicate LOL that's why I wrote my question, smartie. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also, what is a "solid state" battery anyway? A capacitor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) it's still a Li-ion (like most current rechargeables) but the electrolyte - the medium that transfers the ions from the anode to the cathode - (the + and -) inside the battery is made of a solid material instead of the current gen liquid ones. The benefits are less weight/size (as liquids take up more space than solids) and a more stable composition - the liquid electrolyte can't leak - the way batteries get gunky and corroded if left for a while permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And if I understand correctly, they are safer because there is less chance of parts touching inside. I don't know the correct t terminology, but one of the big problems with current li-ion batteries is that if they get physically damaged, parts inside can touch, which basically starts a short/chain reaction that turns into a dangerous thermal runaway. Also if I remember correctly the guy that invented li-ion invented some kind of solid state battery with glass right before he died. I'm assuming this technology stems from that. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Knowledge is power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) it's still a Li-ion (like most current rechargeables) but the electrolyte - the medium that transfers the ions from the anode to the cathode - (the + and -) inside the battery is made of a solid material instead of the current gen liquid ones. The benefits are less weight/size (as liquids take up more space than solids) and a more stable composition - the liquid electrolyte can't leak - the way batteries get gunky and corroded if left for a while permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And if I understand correctly, they are safer because there is less chance of parts touching inside. I don't know the correct t terminology, but one of the big problems with current li-ion batteries is that if they get physically damaged, parts inside can touch, which basically starts a short/chain reaction that turns into a dangerous thermal runaway. Also if I remember correctly the guy that invented li-ion invented some kind of solid state battery with glass right before he died. I'm assuming this technology stems from that. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Knowledge is power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago And if I understand correctly, they are safer because there is less chance of parts touching inside. I don't know the correct t terminology, but one of the big problems with current li-ion batteries is that if they get physically damaged, parts inside can touch, which basically starts a short/chain reaction that turns into a dangerous thermal runaway. Also if I remember correctly the guy that invented li-ion invented some kind of solid state battery with glass right before he died. I'm assuming this technology stems from that. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Knowledge is power. permalink fedilink source parent