▲ 604 ▼ You don't have to fear these things (midwest.social) submitted 2 years ago by Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social to c/atheistmemes@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You SHOULD fear alcohol I think fearing it is going a bit overboard. Moderation is the key. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Science says there is no healthy dose of alcohol - no moderation, but complete absence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Healthy for what, exactly? Because it certainly isn't incompatible with a long, good, moderately healthy life. I'm guessing if you want to perform at peak or reduce your risk of cancer as much as humanly possible, then sure. But that's probably the goal of a minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.who.int/azerbaijan/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a very technically correct wording of "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is." There's nothing wrong with this statement. It's simply that the risks are in practice pretty negligible for the most part. The exact same sentence structure also works with "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of driving. It doesn’t matter how much you drive – the risk to the driver’s health starts from the first kilometer on any public road. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drive, the more dangerous it is – or, in other words, the less you drive, the safer it is." I'm not sure on the statistics, but I'd guess if you compared the risks between drivers and drinkers at different segments of a normal distribution of drinking/driving quantity, driving would be more risky. I haven't checked, though. There would probably be a better way to compare the risks, I haven't looked at any of the statistics recently. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* Nobody claimed othetwise. Just that fearing it is silly. It won't have much of an effect at all on your health in moderation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Science says there is no healthy dose of alcohol - no moderation, but complete absence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Healthy for what, exactly? Because it certainly isn't incompatible with a long, good, moderately healthy life. I'm guessing if you want to perform at peak or reduce your risk of cancer as much as humanly possible, then sure. But that's probably the goal of a minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.who.int/azerbaijan/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a very technically correct wording of "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is." There's nothing wrong with this statement. It's simply that the risks are in practice pretty negligible for the most part. The exact same sentence structure also works with "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of driving. It doesn’t matter how much you drive – the risk to the driver’s health starts from the first kilometer on any public road. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drive, the more dangerous it is – or, in other words, the less you drive, the safer it is." I'm not sure on the statistics, but I'd guess if you compared the risks between drivers and drinkers at different segments of a normal distribution of drinking/driving quantity, driving would be more risky. I haven't checked, though. There would probably be a better way to compare the risks, I haven't looked at any of the statistics recently. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* Nobody claimed othetwise. Just that fearing it is silly. It won't have much of an effect at all on your health in moderation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Healthy for what, exactly? Because it certainly isn't incompatible with a long, good, moderately healthy life. I'm guessing if you want to perform at peak or reduce your risk of cancer as much as humanly possible, then sure. But that's probably the goal of a minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.who.int/azerbaijan/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a very technically correct wording of "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is." There's nothing wrong with this statement. It's simply that the risks are in practice pretty negligible for the most part. The exact same sentence structure also works with "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of driving. It doesn’t matter how much you drive – the risk to the driver’s health starts from the first kilometer on any public road. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drive, the more dangerous it is – or, in other words, the less you drive, the safer it is." I'm not sure on the statistics, but I'd guess if you compared the risks between drivers and drinkers at different segments of a normal distribution of drinking/driving quantity, driving would be more risky. I haven't checked, though. There would probably be a better way to compare the risks, I haven't looked at any of the statistics recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.who.int/azerbaijan/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a very technically correct wording of "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is." There's nothing wrong with this statement. It's simply that the risks are in practice pretty negligible for the most part. The exact same sentence structure also works with "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of driving. It doesn’t matter how much you drive – the risk to the driver’s health starts from the first kilometer on any public road. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drive, the more dangerous it is – or, in other words, the less you drive, the safer it is." I'm not sure on the statistics, but I'd guess if you compared the risks between drivers and drinkers at different segments of a normal distribution of drinking/driving quantity, driving would be more risky. I haven't checked, though. There would probably be a better way to compare the risks, I haven't looked at any of the statistics recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a very technically correct wording of "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is." There's nothing wrong with this statement. It's simply that the risks are in practice pretty negligible for the most part. The exact same sentence structure also works with "We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of driving. It doesn’t matter how much you drive – the risk to the driver’s health starts from the first kilometer on any public road. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drive, the more dangerous it is – or, in other words, the less you drive, the safer it is." I'm not sure on the statistics, but I'd guess if you compared the risks between drivers and drinkers at different segments of a normal distribution of drinking/driving quantity, driving would be more risky. I haven't checked, though. There would probably be a better way to compare the risks, I haven't looked at any of the statistics recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* Nobody claimed othetwise. Just that fearing it is silly. It won't have much of an effect at all on your health in moderation. permalink fedilink source parent