▲ 209 ▼ Judge tears apart Republican lawsuit alleging bias in Gmail spam filter (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 26 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1898981 Archived version: https://archive.ph/sfxWW Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230825182626/https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/judge-tears-apart-republican-lawsuit-alleging-bias-in-gmail-spam-filter/
[–] meat_popsicle@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago (2 children) I work in IT and hit Spam on everything I perceive as spam. Poison all the data and fuck spammers straight to hell, tyvm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago This is the way. I hit spam on every email I'm upset about receiving before unsubscribing. permalink fedilink source parent [+] squiblet@kbin.social -15 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I’ve seen some people deal with newsletters they signed up for that way and it’s unarguably a misuse and abuse of the system. “I don’t want these messages any longer” is not the same as unsolicited or abusive mail. For instance I see a small chocolate company and a granola company in my spam folder in gmail. Do they “spam”? No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam. It sounds like what you 'perceive' as spam is based on not really knowing what it is. Poison all the data Is that some juvenile badassery or something? fuck spammers straight to hell, tyvm. yes, fuck spammers but not small companies doing email marketing. Email marketing is the only effective way to grow a business online these days without paying some giant fuckstick corporation like Facebook, so I don't believe what you stated is accomplishing what seems to be your goal. If you make email marketing unusable, that helps google sell ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] salton@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I see this as "Did I intend to get this email?" Then nothing happens. If I did not intent to receive it then it is spam because I never intentionally subscribe to any marketing emails. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago That's accurate and reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’ve never done something and thought “oh hell this isn’t want I signed up for”? misuse and abuse 🤣 Do you, by chance, run a business that sends out mass email spam? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) No, I sure don’t. I don’t have anything to do with companies that do legitimate email marketing, either. But I am able to understand the difference. I'm not sure what the stupid emoji is supposed to mean, by the way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you’re just a mass-market email fanboy? 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) So you're someone who doesn't understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] cre0@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam. From Wikipedia: Spamming is the use of messaging systems to send multiple unsolicited messages (spam) to large numbers of recipients for the purpose of commercial advertising. So yeah, what you described is spam by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* No, the difference i have noted is solicited vs unsolicited. If you sign up for something it is solicited as based on the definition of the word. Deciding you no longer wish to receive it is different than if you never signed up in the first place. Amazing how confused people are about this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago This is the way. I hit spam on every email I'm upset about receiving before unsubscribing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] squiblet@kbin.social -15 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I’ve seen some people deal with newsletters they signed up for that way and it’s unarguably a misuse and abuse of the system. “I don’t want these messages any longer” is not the same as unsolicited or abusive mail. For instance I see a small chocolate company and a granola company in my spam folder in gmail. Do they “spam”? No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam. It sounds like what you 'perceive' as spam is based on not really knowing what it is. Poison all the data Is that some juvenile badassery or something? fuck spammers straight to hell, tyvm. yes, fuck spammers but not small companies doing email marketing. Email marketing is the only effective way to grow a business online these days without paying some giant fuckstick corporation like Facebook, so I don't believe what you stated is accomplishing what seems to be your goal. If you make email marketing unusable, that helps google sell ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] salton@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I see this as "Did I intend to get this email?" Then nothing happens. If I did not intent to receive it then it is spam because I never intentionally subscribe to any marketing emails. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago That's accurate and reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’ve never done something and thought “oh hell this isn’t want I signed up for”? misuse and abuse 🤣 Do you, by chance, run a business that sends out mass email spam? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) No, I sure don’t. I don’t have anything to do with companies that do legitimate email marketing, either. But I am able to understand the difference. I'm not sure what the stupid emoji is supposed to mean, by the way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you’re just a mass-market email fanboy? 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) So you're someone who doesn't understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] cre0@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam. From Wikipedia: Spamming is the use of messaging systems to send multiple unsolicited messages (spam) to large numbers of recipients for the purpose of commercial advertising. So yeah, what you described is spam by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* No, the difference i have noted is solicited vs unsolicited. If you sign up for something it is solicited as based on the definition of the word. Deciding you no longer wish to receive it is different than if you never signed up in the first place. Amazing how confused people are about this. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] salton@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I see this as "Did I intend to get this email?" Then nothing happens. If I did not intent to receive it then it is spam because I never intentionally subscribe to any marketing emails. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago That's accurate and reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] salton@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I see this as "Did I intend to get this email?" Then nothing happens. If I did not intent to receive it then it is spam because I never intentionally subscribe to any marketing emails. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago That's accurate and reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago That's accurate and reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You’ve never done something and thought “oh hell this isn’t want I signed up for”? misuse and abuse 🤣 Do you, by chance, run a business that sends out mass email spam? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) No, I sure don’t. I don’t have anything to do with companies that do legitimate email marketing, either. But I am able to understand the difference. I'm not sure what the stupid emoji is supposed to mean, by the way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you’re just a mass-market email fanboy? 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) So you're someone who doesn't understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] cre0@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squiblet@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) No, I sure don’t. I don’t have anything to do with companies that do legitimate email marketing, either. But I am able to understand the difference. I'm not sure what the stupid emoji is supposed to mean, by the way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you’re just a mass-market email fanboy? 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) So you're someone who doesn't understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] cre0@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you’re just a mass-market email fanboy? 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) So you're someone who doesn't understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] cre0@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) So you're someone who doesn't understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] cre0@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’ll take that as a yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam. From Wikipedia: Spamming is the use of messaging systems to send multiple unsolicited messages (spam) to large numbers of recipients for the purpose of commercial advertising. So yeah, what you described is spam by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* No, the difference i have noted is solicited vs unsolicited. If you sign up for something it is solicited as based on the definition of the word. Deciding you no longer wish to receive it is different than if you never signed up in the first place. Amazing how confused people are about this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* No, the difference i have noted is solicited vs unsolicited. If you sign up for something it is solicited as based on the definition of the word. Deciding you no longer wish to receive it is different than if you never signed up in the first place. Amazing how confused people are about this. permalink fedilink source parent