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[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bernie is pushing for what is standard governmental procedures in areas of Europe like France, Germany, Sweden, or Norway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aski3252@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (3 children) So in Europe, it is standard govermental procedere to transfer 20% ownership of big corporations to employees? It is standard govermental procedere to have 45% of BoD elected by workers? Are you sure about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Workers councils are definitely a thing in Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago The comment wasn't about whether worker councils are a thing or not, the comment was about Sander's policies being "standard govermental procedure" in Europe.. They aren't.. I wish they were, but they aren't, and I don't understand how denying reality is in any way helpful.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago Man I wish, it could all be so easy permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So in Europe, it is standard govermental procedere to transfer 20% ownership of big corporations to employees? It is standard govermental procedere to have 45% of BoD elected by workers? It is absolutely not standard in Europe, so have my upvote. Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions to worker-elected union members. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties, roughly landing around the positions of contemporary left populist parties (Podemos, France Insoumise, old Syriza), perhaps somewhat distanced from Eurocommunist parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions Codetermination/worker representation is a thing in some countries, but with the exception of Germany, it's not half of the BoD. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties I'm sure there are members of social democratic politicians who are as left wing or even more left wing than Bernie. I think if he was European, he would be in the left wing of a social democratic party. But what many people don't seem to want to realize is that we aren't living in the 70s anymore.. Europe might have some remains of social democratic elements left, but barely.. And it certainly isn't "standard governmental procedure". And I do wish Bernies policies were the norm in Europe, but they simply aren't.. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aski3252@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (3 children) So in Europe, it is standard govermental procedere to transfer 20% ownership of big corporations to employees? It is standard govermental procedere to have 45% of BoD elected by workers? Are you sure about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Workers councils are definitely a thing in Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago The comment wasn't about whether worker councils are a thing or not, the comment was about Sander's policies being "standard govermental procedure" in Europe.. They aren't.. I wish they were, but they aren't, and I don't understand how denying reality is in any way helpful.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago Man I wish, it could all be so easy permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So in Europe, it is standard govermental procedere to transfer 20% ownership of big corporations to employees? It is standard govermental procedere to have 45% of BoD elected by workers? It is absolutely not standard in Europe, so have my upvote. Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions to worker-elected union members. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties, roughly landing around the positions of contemporary left populist parties (Podemos, France Insoumise, old Syriza), perhaps somewhat distanced from Eurocommunist parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions Codetermination/worker representation is a thing in some countries, but with the exception of Germany, it's not half of the BoD. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties I'm sure there are members of social democratic politicians who are as left wing or even more left wing than Bernie. I think if he was European, he would be in the left wing of a social democratic party. But what many people don't seem to want to realize is that we aren't living in the 70s anymore.. Europe might have some remains of social democratic elements left, but barely.. And it certainly isn't "standard governmental procedure". And I do wish Bernies policies were the norm in Europe, but they simply aren't.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Workers councils are definitely a thing in Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago The comment wasn't about whether worker councils are a thing or not, the comment was about Sander's policies being "standard govermental procedure" in Europe.. They aren't.. I wish they were, but they aren't, and I don't understand how denying reality is in any way helpful.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago The comment wasn't about whether worker councils are a thing or not, the comment was about Sander's policies being "standard govermental procedure" in Europe.. They aren't.. I wish they were, but they aren't, and I don't understand how denying reality is in any way helpful.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago Man I wish, it could all be so easy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So in Europe, it is standard govermental procedere to transfer 20% ownership of big corporations to employees? It is standard govermental procedere to have 45% of BoD elected by workers? It is absolutely not standard in Europe, so have my upvote. Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions to worker-elected union members. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties, roughly landing around the positions of contemporary left populist parties (Podemos, France Insoumise, old Syriza), perhaps somewhat distanced from Eurocommunist parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions Codetermination/worker representation is a thing in some countries, but with the exception of Germany, it's not half of the BoD. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties I'm sure there are members of social democratic politicians who are as left wing or even more left wing than Bernie. I think if he was European, he would be in the left wing of a social democratic party. But what many people don't seem to want to realize is that we aren't living in the 70s anymore.. Europe might have some remains of social democratic elements left, but barely.. And it certainly isn't "standard governmental procedure". And I do wish Bernies policies were the norm in Europe, but they simply aren't.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Although there are exceptional cases such as Germany's, where large enough companies must assign a percentage of the BoD positions Codetermination/worker representation is a thing in some countries, but with the exception of Germany, it's not half of the BoD. I'd probably put Sanders left of plenty of European social-democratic parties I'm sure there are members of social democratic politicians who are as left wing or even more left wing than Bernie. I think if he was European, he would be in the left wing of a social democratic party. But what many people don't seem to want to realize is that we aren't living in the 70s anymore.. Europe might have some remains of social democratic elements left, but barely.. And it certainly isn't "standard governmental procedure". And I do wish Bernies policies were the norm in Europe, but they simply aren't.. permalink fedilink source parent
