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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 65 points 2 years ago (15 children) My money is still on Harris to be the final candidate. Get ready. permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Corigan@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (15 children) I am all for a women president, but Harris is just a Hilary repeat ... Please dont. AOC would be amazing but I know shes "too progressive"for the boomers... What ever the fuck that means permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (7 children) Why is she Hillary repeat? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality. I haven't watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I've heard most often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children) A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki: The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki. EDIT: According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this): Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs: Job training; Reentry services; Expenses related to the expungement of convictions; Public libraries; Community centers; Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and Health education I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Hmmm.. crickets permalink fedilink source parent [–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime. It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business' permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oof, that's not great; got an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because that is the talking point that the foreign propaganda machine has been pumping out for the last few months. You'll notice there were no comparisons to Hillary a year ago. Now it's all "Harris is a cop," and "Harris is Hillary 2.0". Ignore all of that bullshit. It's foreign trolls doing their job and muddying the waters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Redecco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we'll be hearing all sorts of things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign. permalink fedilink source parent [–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Why is she Hillary repeat? They don't know. Watch... they won't have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking, presentation, likability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309 She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago I do not like Hillary and I do not like Harris. I don't however agree with harris being a Hilary repeat, I think she has a way better shot than Biden did permalink fedilink source parent [–] oyo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you actually listened to her on the issues or do you just know what the media has been spouting? I was surprised to hear her very articulate and reasonable stances from her directly rather than through a progressive media filter. There's a mismatch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn't like lol. Whatever, there's some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they're right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iz_ok@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago I like AOC's passion but a lot of people believe she's too progressive. She's young and can probably be more beneficial to her constituents and the party where she is for a few more years. Harris should have a good shot, just for name recognition, her stance on abortion, and being part of the incumbent administration. Maybe she's a more likable candidate then she was four years ago. The Democrats will have to give her a chance. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (11 replies) [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Having the first US woman president would be cool and have a first woman vice-president as well, why not? E: Whoops, you already had a first vp, Sorry, Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jorp@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah it would be cool but we're talking about the American voter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol ... :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tagger@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Haven't you just had the first woman vice-president? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [+] dank@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Running a woman for president is risky because of boomers, but the majority of them are voting Trump anyway. Running two women on the ticket I think would be a mistake. There are a lot of progressives that are still misogynist. As much as I'd love to see Harris/AOC I think they need to pick a man for VP. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (13 replies)
[–] Corigan@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (15 children) I am all for a women president, but Harris is just a Hilary repeat ... Please dont. AOC would be amazing but I know shes "too progressive"for the boomers... What ever the fuck that means permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (7 children) Why is she Hillary repeat? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality. I haven't watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I've heard most often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children) A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki: The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki. EDIT: According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this): Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs: Job training; Reentry services; Expenses related to the expungement of convictions; Public libraries; Community centers; Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and Health education I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Hmmm.. crickets permalink fedilink source parent [–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime. It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business' permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oof, that's not great; got an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because that is the talking point that the foreign propaganda machine has been pumping out for the last few months. You'll notice there were no comparisons to Hillary a year ago. Now it's all "Harris is a cop," and "Harris is Hillary 2.0". Ignore all of that bullshit. It's foreign trolls doing their job and muddying the waters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Redecco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we'll be hearing all sorts of things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign. permalink fedilink source parent [–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Why is she Hillary repeat? They don't know. Watch... they won't have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking, presentation, likability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309 She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago I do not like Hillary and I do not like Harris. I don't however agree with harris being a Hilary repeat, I think she has a way better shot than Biden did permalink fedilink source parent [–] oyo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you actually listened to her on the issues or do you just know what the media has been spouting? I was surprised to hear her very articulate and reasonable stances from her directly rather than through a progressive media filter. There's a mismatch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn't like lol. Whatever, there's some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they're right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iz_ok@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago I like AOC's passion but a lot of people believe she's too progressive. She's young and can probably be more beneficial to her constituents and the party where she is for a few more years. Harris should have a good shot, just for name recognition, her stance on abortion, and being part of the incumbent administration. Maybe she's a more likable candidate then she was four years ago. The Democrats will have to give her a chance. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (11 replies)
[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (7 children) Why is she Hillary repeat? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality. I haven't watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I've heard most often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children) A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki: The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki. EDIT: According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this): Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs: Job training; Reentry services; Expenses related to the expungement of convictions; Public libraries; Community centers; Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and Health education I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Hmmm.. crickets permalink fedilink source parent [–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime. It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business' permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oof, that's not great; got an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because that is the talking point that the foreign propaganda machine has been pumping out for the last few months. You'll notice there were no comparisons to Hillary a year ago. Now it's all "Harris is a cop," and "Harris is Hillary 2.0". Ignore all of that bullshit. It's foreign trolls doing their job and muddying the waters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Redecco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we'll be hearing all sorts of things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign. permalink fedilink source parent [–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Why is she Hillary repeat? They don't know. Watch... they won't have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking, presentation, likability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309 She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality. I haven't watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I've heard most often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children) A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki: The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki. EDIT: According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this): Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs: Job training; Reentry services; Expenses related to the expungement of convictions; Public libraries; Community centers; Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and Health education I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Hmmm.. crickets permalink fedilink source parent [–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime. It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business' permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oof, that's not great; got an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children) A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki: The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki. EDIT: According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this): Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs: Job training; Reentry services; Expenses related to the expungement of convictions; Public libraries; Community centers; Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and Health education I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Hmmm.. crickets permalink fedilink source parent [–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime. It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business' permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oof, that's not great; got an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki: The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki. EDIT: According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this): Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs: Job training; Reentry services; Expenses related to the expungement of convictions; Public libraries; Community centers; Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and Health education I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Hmmm.. crickets permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime. It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oof, that's not great; got an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because that is the talking point that the foreign propaganda machine has been pumping out for the last few months. You'll notice there were no comparisons to Hillary a year ago. Now it's all "Harris is a cop," and "Harris is Hillary 2.0". Ignore all of that bullshit. It's foreign trolls doing their job and muddying the waters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Redecco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we'll be hearing all sorts of things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Redecco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we'll be hearing all sorts of things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Why is she Hillary repeat? They don't know. Watch... they won't have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Speaking, presentation, likability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309 She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309 She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309 She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago I do not like Hillary and I do not like Harris. I don't however agree with harris being a Hilary repeat, I think she has a way better shot than Biden did permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oyo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you actually listened to her on the issues or do you just know what the media has been spouting? I was surprised to hear her very articulate and reasonable stances from her directly rather than through a progressive media filter. There's a mismatch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn't like lol. Whatever, there's some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they're right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn't like lol. Whatever, there's some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they're right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iz_ok@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago I like AOC's passion but a lot of people believe she's too progressive. She's young and can probably be more beneficial to her constituents and the party where she is for a few more years. Harris should have a good shot, just for name recognition, her stance on abortion, and being part of the incumbent administration. Maybe she's a more likable candidate then she was four years ago. The Democrats will have to give her a chance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Having the first US woman president would be cool and have a first woman vice-president as well, why not? E: Whoops, you already had a first vp, Sorry, Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jorp@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah it would be cool but we're talking about the American voter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol ... :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tagger@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Haven't you just had the first woman vice-president? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [+] dank@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Running a woman for president is risky because of boomers, but the majority of them are voting Trump anyway. Running two women on the ticket I think would be a mistake. There are a lot of progressives that are still misogynist. As much as I'd love to see Harris/AOC I think they need to pick a man for VP. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jorp@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah it would be cool but we're talking about the American voter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol ... :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Haven't you just had the first woman vice-president? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Running a woman for president is risky because of boomers, but the majority of them are voting Trump anyway. Running two women on the ticket I think would be a mistake. There are a lot of progressives that are still misogynist. As much as I'd love to see Harris/AOC I think they need to pick a man for VP. permalink fedilink source parent