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[β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (3 children) I've found it funny how many people think they need to defend windows by saying " this could've happened to Linux too!!" Okay, sure. Yeah you're right about Linux being just as insecure as windows too π permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (2 children) Something similar did happen on Linux clients with CrowdStrike installed not too long ago lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MartianFox@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sounds a bit like its a bad idea to install CrowdStrike regardless of the system π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] jaybone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) lol yeah thatβs a glowing review. βOh, we can fuck other shit up too!β permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything to defend windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It's a Crowdstrike issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) checkbox compliance β companies are required to have something in place that checks the box so they can pass the audit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] sntx@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago If you're lucky, you only gave to have the software installed - but not running. permalink fedilink source parent [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) To those many Linux users who took a look at their circumstances and said "I definitely need antivirus software!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) CrowdStrike does more than anti-virus and yes enterprise Linux installations need a lot of security controls that average Linux users don't need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine simps, Linux is exactly as shitty as windows this was totally only a coincidence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bruh, I've used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don't run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices. At work it's a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance. This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent [β] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think people are missing the point here. The biggest problem was not that the update was bricking the machines, that could've happened to Linux/macOS/BSD etc. The problem is that the solution to the problem is to MANUALLY access the machine, get into safe mode and type some commands. This is insane. And you should be able to EASILY disable automatic updates for apps like that on Windows Server. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I dunno, I'd say them deploying an update that bricked machines at the scale they did shows they didn't test it very well at smaller scales. They could have even still used their users as beta testers, just needed to do a subset of them first. permalink fedilink source parent [β] kelargo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Crowdstrike exists for Linux. Are their reports their update affected Linux servers? I have not read that anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Psythik@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah but 14th Gen Intel CPUs are still failing regardless of your OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proudly an AMD user for 25 years now :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even bulldozer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nobody but the most hardcore AMD enthusiasts used Bulldozer. The 2010s was a tough decade for AMD, to say the least. It wasn't until AM5 came out that I finally switched back to Team Red. Got too used to LGA sockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago I still don't know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea... The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane permalink fedilink source parent [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago not familiar. Their processors tend to last me ~5 years so it's not like I bought every model available permalink fedilink source parent [β] cerement@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago βIntel inside, donβt divideβ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (2 children) Something similar did happen on Linux clients with CrowdStrike installed not too long ago lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MartianFox@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sounds a bit like its a bad idea to install CrowdStrike regardless of the system π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] jaybone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) lol yeah thatβs a glowing review. βOh, we can fuck other shit up too!β permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything to defend windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It's a Crowdstrike issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) checkbox compliance β companies are required to have something in place that checks the box so they can pass the audit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] sntx@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago If you're lucky, you only gave to have the software installed - but not running. permalink fedilink source parent [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) To those many Linux users who took a look at their circumstances and said "I definitely need antivirus software!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) CrowdStrike does more than anti-virus and yes enterprise Linux installations need a lot of security controls that average Linux users don't need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine simps, Linux is exactly as shitty as windows this was totally only a coincidence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bruh, I've used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don't run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices. At work it's a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance. This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MartianFox@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sounds a bit like its a bad idea to install CrowdStrike regardless of the system π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] jaybone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) lol yeah thatβs a glowing review. βOh, we can fuck other shit up too!β permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything to defend windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It's a Crowdstrike issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) checkbox compliance β companies are required to have something in place that checks the box so they can pass the audit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] sntx@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago If you're lucky, you only gave to have the software installed - but not running. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jaybone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) lol yeah thatβs a glowing review. βOh, we can fuck other shit up too!β permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything to defend windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It's a Crowdstrike issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything to defend windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It's a Crowdstrike issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It's a Crowdstrike issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else's fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It's well known permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. But nothing to do with this incident. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everything to do with it. You don't buy expensive software to protect your shitty OS unless it's a shitty OS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux had a similar outage a few weeks ago, my man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago And yet I heard zero peeps about it. Probably because 99% of IT departments know windows is vulnerable as fuck while 99% know that Linux doesn't need babysitting. "It's technically possible for other OSes to be affected by a thing like this" is a shit argument and you should get the MS dick out of your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) checkbox compliance β companies are required to have something in place that checks the box so they can pass the audit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] sntx@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago If you're lucky, you only gave to have the software installed - but not running. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] sntx@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago If you're lucky, you only gave to have the software installed - but not running. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) To those many Linux users who took a look at their circumstances and said "I definitely need antivirus software!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) CrowdStrike does more than anti-virus and yes enterprise Linux installations need a lot of security controls that average Linux users don't need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine simps, Linux is exactly as shitty as windows this was totally only a coincidence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bruh, I've used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don't run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices. At work it's a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance. This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) CrowdStrike does more than anti-virus and yes enterprise Linux installations need a lot of security controls that average Linux users don't need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine simps, Linux is exactly as shitty as windows this was totally only a coincidence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bruh, I've used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don't run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices. At work it's a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance. This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine simps, Linux is exactly as shitty as windows this was totally only a coincidence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bruh, I've used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don't run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices. At work it's a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance. This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bruh, I've used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don't run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices. At work it's a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance. This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I don't need to argue about windows vs Linux. You're overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it's no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense Edit: let's see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think people are missing the point here. The biggest problem was not that the update was bricking the machines, that could've happened to Linux/macOS/BSD etc. The problem is that the solution to the problem is to MANUALLY access the machine, get into safe mode and type some commands. This is insane. And you should be able to EASILY disable automatic updates for apps like that on Windows Server. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I dunno, I'd say them deploying an update that bricked machines at the scale they did shows they didn't test it very well at smaller scales. They could have even still used their users as beta testers, just needed to do a subset of them first. permalink fedilink source parent [β] kelargo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Crowdstrike exists for Linux. Are their reports their update affected Linux servers? I have not read that anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I dunno, I'd say them deploying an update that bricked machines at the scale they did shows they didn't test it very well at smaller scales. They could have even still used their users as beta testers, just needed to do a subset of them first. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] kelargo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Crowdstrike exists for Linux. Are their reports their update affected Linux servers? I have not read that anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Psythik@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah but 14th Gen Intel CPUs are still failing regardless of your OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proudly an AMD user for 25 years now :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even bulldozer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nobody but the most hardcore AMD enthusiasts used Bulldozer. The 2010s was a tough decade for AMD, to say the least. It wasn't until AM5 came out that I finally switched back to Team Red. Got too used to LGA sockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago I still don't know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea... The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane permalink fedilink source parent [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago not familiar. Their processors tend to last me ~5 years so it's not like I bought every model available permalink fedilink source parent [β] cerement@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago βIntel inside, donβt divideβ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proudly an AMD user for 25 years now :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even bulldozer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nobody but the most hardcore AMD enthusiasts used Bulldozer. The 2010s was a tough decade for AMD, to say the least. It wasn't until AM5 came out that I finally switched back to Team Red. Got too used to LGA sockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago I still don't know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea... The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane permalink fedilink source parent [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago not familiar. Their processors tend to last me ~5 years so it's not like I bought every model available permalink fedilink source parent
[β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even bulldozer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nobody but the most hardcore AMD enthusiasts used Bulldozer. The 2010s was a tough decade for AMD, to say the least. It wasn't until AM5 came out that I finally switched back to Team Red. Got too used to LGA sockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago I still don't know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea... The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane permalink fedilink source parent [β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago not familiar. Their processors tend to last me ~5 years so it's not like I bought every model available permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nobody but the most hardcore AMD enthusiasts used Bulldozer. The 2010s was a tough decade for AMD, to say the least. It wasn't until AM5 came out that I finally switched back to Team Red. Got too used to LGA sockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago I still don't know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea... The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane permalink fedilink source parent
[β] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago I still don't know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea... The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago not familiar. Their processors tend to last me ~5 years so it's not like I bought every model available permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cerement@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago βIntel inside, donβt divideβ permalink fedilink source parent
