▲ -14 ▼ Living conditions in Ukraine are resembling a new slavery, a triumph of Western 'democracy' in the 21st century (english.almayadeen.net) submitted 2 years ago by AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 102 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] hypelightfly@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, you should support Ukraine. No it's not slavery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml [S] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Care to elaborate? AFAIK, forced labour under the threat of harm and no conditions for escape fits very well into most modern definitions of slavery. But go on, why should I support Ukraine despite this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hypelightfly@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are being invaded. But you don't care about that, you're a tankie who defends genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml [S] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't follow. Yes, they are at war. How does that justify labour conscriptions and banning fleeing? I do care about people not dying and having dignity, you see. But sending teenagers into slaughter or forcing them to work to that same slaughter industry doesn't help anybody. It is basically a self-genocide by the Ukrainian government. No wonder that it started as a war against eastern Ukrainians. Who here exactly defends genocide when the only thing I want in this war is for the suicidal tactics of the Ukrainian government to pause for a second so that civilians can flee and live better lives elsewhere? But you don't care about that, you're a liberal who will justify every war crime from your favourite North Atlantic countries and their puppet governments, under the guise of empathy. See, 2 can play that game of ad hominem. Answer the question: "How is this not comparable to a modern slave state?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Theres also a difference between these actions to defend a far right corrupt regime and some actual democracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're excusing the genocide of the separatist regions and making up nonsense about this being ww2 2.0. You're the real genocide denier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proving once again you're just a genocide apologist willing to use "genocide" to excuse a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml [S] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Care to elaborate? AFAIK, forced labour under the threat of harm and no conditions for escape fits very well into most modern definitions of slavery. But go on, why should I support Ukraine despite this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hypelightfly@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are being invaded. But you don't care about that, you're a tankie who defends genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml [S] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't follow. Yes, they are at war. How does that justify labour conscriptions and banning fleeing? I do care about people not dying and having dignity, you see. But sending teenagers into slaughter or forcing them to work to that same slaughter industry doesn't help anybody. It is basically a self-genocide by the Ukrainian government. No wonder that it started as a war against eastern Ukrainians. Who here exactly defends genocide when the only thing I want in this war is for the suicidal tactics of the Ukrainian government to pause for a second so that civilians can flee and live better lives elsewhere? But you don't care about that, you're a liberal who will justify every war crime from your favourite North Atlantic countries and their puppet governments, under the guise of empathy. See, 2 can play that game of ad hominem. Answer the question: "How is this not comparable to a modern slave state?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Theres also a difference between these actions to defend a far right corrupt regime and some actual democracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're excusing the genocide of the separatist regions and making up nonsense about this being ww2 2.0. You're the real genocide denier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proving once again you're just a genocide apologist willing to use "genocide" to excuse a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hypelightfly@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are being invaded. But you don't care about that, you're a tankie who defends genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml [S] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't follow. Yes, they are at war. How does that justify labour conscriptions and banning fleeing? I do care about people not dying and having dignity, you see. But sending teenagers into slaughter or forcing them to work to that same slaughter industry doesn't help anybody. It is basically a self-genocide by the Ukrainian government. No wonder that it started as a war against eastern Ukrainians. Who here exactly defends genocide when the only thing I want in this war is for the suicidal tactics of the Ukrainian government to pause for a second so that civilians can flee and live better lives elsewhere? But you don't care about that, you're a liberal who will justify every war crime from your favourite North Atlantic countries and their puppet governments, under the guise of empathy. See, 2 can play that game of ad hominem. Answer the question: "How is this not comparable to a modern slave state?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Theres also a difference between these actions to defend a far right corrupt regime and some actual democracy permalink fedilink source parent [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're excusing the genocide of the separatist regions and making up nonsense about this being ww2 2.0. You're the real genocide denier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proving once again you're just a genocide apologist willing to use "genocide" to excuse a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml [S] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't follow. Yes, they are at war. How does that justify labour conscriptions and banning fleeing? I do care about people not dying and having dignity, you see. But sending teenagers into slaughter or forcing them to work to that same slaughter industry doesn't help anybody. It is basically a self-genocide by the Ukrainian government. No wonder that it started as a war against eastern Ukrainians. Who here exactly defends genocide when the only thing I want in this war is for the suicidal tactics of the Ukrainian government to pause for a second so that civilians can flee and live better lives elsewhere? But you don't care about that, you're a liberal who will justify every war crime from your favourite North Atlantic countries and their puppet governments, under the guise of empathy. See, 2 can play that game of ad hominem. Answer the question: "How is this not comparable to a modern slave state?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Theres also a difference between these actions to defend a far right corrupt regime and some actual democracy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Theres also a difference between these actions to defend a far right corrupt regime and some actual democracy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're excusing the genocide of the separatist regions and making up nonsense about this being ww2 2.0. You're the real genocide denier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proving once again you're just a genocide apologist willing to use "genocide" to excuse a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Proving once again you're just a genocide apologist willing to use "genocide" to excuse a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bro i'm not the one pretending this war is a genocide against Ukrainians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago You literally are. permalink fedilink source parent