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Donald Trump calls for Taiwan to ‘pay’ for its own defence (www.ft.com)
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[–] 34 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

I posted a similar comment on some of the news around the US Republican's withholding aid to Ukraine for 6 months but this is insane.

Sure in the case of Taiwan specifically, the semiconductors is an obvious and immediate issue. But it's also worth noting that the US has spent countless trillions of dollars and worked through consecutive administrations for decades to establish itself as a reliable, irreplaceable and necessary defence partner.

This isn't just about Taiwan or Ukraine, but the geopolitical status of the US as a whole. It seems insane to me to jeopardize that. I'm no political scientist or anything so if this is actually in some way good for the US I'd be very interested to hear that perspective.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Think about it. Who loses if the US becomes anything other than a reliable, irreplaceable and necessary defense partner? Who gains?

    Putin is waging war against the rest of the world on multiple fronts and our definitions and rules of engagement when it comes to hybrid warfare aren't up to date.

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  • [+] -30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Rolling back US empire is an unalloyed good.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think there's definitely merit to that. There are multiple avenues to achieving that end though and the US suddenly leaving its allies unprotected is probably the worst possible one imo. I am biased though living in Taiwan and having my home country also dependent on our alliance with the US for defence.

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  • [+] -37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Taiwan isn't an ally it's a vassal. And you shouldn't be so excited to be a meat shield for their aggression on the opposite side of the world. Even if you have sympathies for your fascist, genocidal government.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Oh yes, of course it's American aggression that's the problem here, not Chinese aggression.

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  • [+] -24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Seen a map before?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Check out the continent of Africa for a current view of the counterpoint to your argument.

    Have you seen nmap before?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago* (1 child)
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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    You seem angry and myopic.

    Anyway, that's not what I said. Nor implied. China (xi/aka pooh bear). Is ALSO bad. CHINA is ALSO building military bases, secret camps, "police stations", around the world.

    They've turned a Democratic Hong Kong into an authoritarian regime. As they seek to do with Taiwan.

    They prop up north Korea, supply weapons to Russia, etc., they intern Muslims, they disappear their own people. (See, China is ALSO, a murderous dictatorship. Get it yet?)

    Africa, is their focus at present.

    Resources.

    They've taken over major ports. They've built military bases. They're exploiting the people. They're just getting started.

    Payback in some minds, for the century of humiliation.

    https://www.rfa.org/english/commentaries/china-africa-12262021114423.html

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/assessing-risks-chinese-investments-sub-saharan-african-ports

    https://www.cfr.org/tracker/china-overseas-ports

    https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/03/china-eyeing-second-military-base-africa-us-struggles-maintain-one-niger

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I appreciate you kicking off your screed with a (shoehorned) racist caricature just to mark the water level in your brain pan.

    Why is China evil? I guess is the topic now? Well, according to you, they want revenge. For what? That time we made them slaves and murdered them by the millions. And how are they going to get that revenge? By making financial investments in overseas ports.

    oOOooOOOooOOo

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The fuck? It took me a minute. Lol.

    Who's racist?

    Buddy person, words have different meanings. If you applied the visual meaning rather than the obvious intended meaning, buddy person, you, are the racist.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Uhhh, ok now you've lost me. I'd kinda just like to not have myelf or my family bombed or shot at and be able to have self determination. Being under the umbrella of US protection is the best way to have both of those things right now.

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