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[–] [S] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah well gradual reform is right-wing liberal propaganda that makes marginalized groups suffer even more for our own privilege. It doesn't work.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just to be clear if you had a magic button that would result in guaranteed gradual reform if you pressed it. And not pressing it would result in collapse.

    You would press the button, right?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I would kill the person who was forcing me to push such an absurd button. I'd celebrate the death of any nation that supported the button's existence

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Liberals themselves have told me:

    1. We are a "first past the post" electoral system. That alone should disillusion you of hope for any change through voting.

    2. Biden is "the most progressive president we've ever had." This is probably sadly true, which again shows that anyone who cares about marginalized groups should hope for the collapse of such an outrageously atrocious system.

    Collapse is best. We should work towards collapse.

    Edit: Autocorrect sucks donkey ass

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (101 children)

    i don't think the left wing is best positioned to take power if there was a collapse

    i think a collapse would bring the us significantly more right wing

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    It's never how it works. See, we get a century or so of dictatorships, with each new guy overthrowing the previous and promising to be better, and failing to be.

    Somewhere along the line (because for some reason we won't do this in advance) intellectuals will in secret start developing some rules for a public-run government (democracy or sortition are popular), but no political leader or revolutionary leader will be actually willing to try them (because they like the power), until absolutely everyone is tired of the wars and coups because absolutely everyone has close friends and relatives they had to put into the cold ground.

    And then the new Communist / Socialist / Anarchist / Whatever United States will rise, since the point is to be able to change the rules without someone shooting someone else.

    Which is what happens when either the legislature, executive or courts collapse into corruption and seize power. The four boxes of liberty are a warning the first three (soapbox, ballot box, jury box) are all that keep the ammunition box closed and unused.

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