▲ 170 ▼ Court ordered penalties for 15 teens who created naked AI images of classmates (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to c/technology@beehaw.org 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Keep in mind these were other kids their age. We're not talking about pedo stuff here. All the recent stuff about deepfakes feels a bit moral-panic-y to me. I think we should have a better reason than just ick before anyone gets thrown in jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) We’re not talking about pedo stuff here. Do you want an explanation of why creating and sharing sexually explicit material of other people without consent is problematic and damaging, and especially for children? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is a really good idea. Perhaps this is what should be happening in the first place rather than resorting to direct legal enforcement, which can be problematic and damaging, especially for children. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago If you cant understand that sharing naked photos of people is bad, then you probably should have to face the court systems. Like what? I don't care how horny you are as a teenager, it takes a real fucking idiot, and a huge shitstain to go and share those photos. They absolutely deserve the book being thrown at them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. I can see why we'd prohibit it, but somehow doing it in writing without involving the subject is pretty accepted (see: every fanfiction involving characters played by a specific real actor), and mentally doing it is like an informal human right. I'm honestly not trying to be obtuse here. It seems arbitrary to me. People have pictured me in all kinds of horrifying situations, I'm sure (probably more violent then sexy, but still). I'm not bothered, nor would I be if they made a collection of depictions (unless they sent some to me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* They shared sexually explicit images in whatsapp groups. You consider that similar to having personal thoughts nobody will know of or written stories? "were completely terrified and had tremendous anxiety attacks because they were suffering this in silence." Have you dismissed this quote? I don't know where to start explaining how it's different from what you described because of how far off it is. I have no idea where the baseline is to argue from. Humans are a social creature. We form groups, and want to be part of groups. Teens are especially vulnerable with a developing personality, social norms, and social belonging. Breaking norms and violating common personal barriers and control of self-expression and self-presentation is deeply violating in a vulnerable phase of life. They didn't create a personal collection. They shared in their social groups. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) We’re not talking about pedo stuff here. Do you want an explanation of why creating and sharing sexually explicit material of other people without consent is problematic and damaging, and especially for children? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is a really good idea. Perhaps this is what should be happening in the first place rather than resorting to direct legal enforcement, which can be problematic and damaging, especially for children. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago If you cant understand that sharing naked photos of people is bad, then you probably should have to face the court systems. Like what? I don't care how horny you are as a teenager, it takes a real fucking idiot, and a huge shitstain to go and share those photos. They absolutely deserve the book being thrown at them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. I can see why we'd prohibit it, but somehow doing it in writing without involving the subject is pretty accepted (see: every fanfiction involving characters played by a specific real actor), and mentally doing it is like an informal human right. I'm honestly not trying to be obtuse here. It seems arbitrary to me. People have pictured me in all kinds of horrifying situations, I'm sure (probably more violent then sexy, but still). I'm not bothered, nor would I be if they made a collection of depictions (unless they sent some to me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* They shared sexually explicit images in whatsapp groups. You consider that similar to having personal thoughts nobody will know of or written stories? "were completely terrified and had tremendous anxiety attacks because they were suffering this in silence." Have you dismissed this quote? I don't know where to start explaining how it's different from what you described because of how far off it is. I have no idea where the baseline is to argue from. Humans are a social creature. We form groups, and want to be part of groups. Teens are especially vulnerable with a developing personality, social norms, and social belonging. Breaking norms and violating common personal barriers and control of self-expression and self-presentation is deeply violating in a vulnerable phase of life. They didn't create a personal collection. They shared in their social groups. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is a really good idea. Perhaps this is what should be happening in the first place rather than resorting to direct legal enforcement, which can be problematic and damaging, especially for children. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago If you cant understand that sharing naked photos of people is bad, then you probably should have to face the court systems. Like what? I don't care how horny you are as a teenager, it takes a real fucking idiot, and a huge shitstain to go and share those photos. They absolutely deserve the book being thrown at them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago If you cant understand that sharing naked photos of people is bad, then you probably should have to face the court systems. Like what? I don't care how horny you are as a teenager, it takes a real fucking idiot, and a huge shitstain to go and share those photos. They absolutely deserve the book being thrown at them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. I can see why we'd prohibit it, but somehow doing it in writing without involving the subject is pretty accepted (see: every fanfiction involving characters played by a specific real actor), and mentally doing it is like an informal human right. I'm honestly not trying to be obtuse here. It seems arbitrary to me. People have pictured me in all kinds of horrifying situations, I'm sure (probably more violent then sexy, but still). I'm not bothered, nor would I be if they made a collection of depictions (unless they sent some to me). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* They shared sexually explicit images in whatsapp groups. You consider that similar to having personal thoughts nobody will know of or written stories? "were completely terrified and had tremendous anxiety attacks because they were suffering this in silence." Have you dismissed this quote? I don't know where to start explaining how it's different from what you described because of how far off it is. I have no idea where the baseline is to argue from. Humans are a social creature. We form groups, and want to be part of groups. Teens are especially vulnerable with a developing personality, social norms, and social belonging. Breaking norms and violating common personal barriers and control of self-expression and self-presentation is deeply violating in a vulnerable phase of life. They didn't create a personal collection. They shared in their social groups. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* They shared sexually explicit images in whatsapp groups. You consider that similar to having personal thoughts nobody will know of or written stories? "were completely terrified and had tremendous anxiety attacks because they were suffering this in silence." Have you dismissed this quote? I don't know where to start explaining how it's different from what you described because of how far off it is. I have no idea where the baseline is to argue from. Humans are a social creature. We form groups, and want to be part of groups. Teens are especially vulnerable with a developing personality, social norms, and social belonging. Breaking norms and violating common personal barriers and control of self-expression and self-presentation is deeply violating in a vulnerable phase of life. They didn't create a personal collection. They shared in their social groups. permalink fedilink source parent