▲ 732 ▼ The world feeds the climate crisis with public money: Fossil fuel subsidies amounted to $7 trillion in 2022 (english.elpais.com) submitted 2 years ago by boem@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 48 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) That would be nice, but I, and many people, live too far from work to be able to bike and there is no public transportation in most of North America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fung@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Can I ask how far you live from work? I've always tried to keep my commute distance short because I hated the time I wasted driving. Eventually I sold my car for a bike and have been much happier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A lot of north American cities are too expensive to live close to the business district so people live further out in the suburbs. With limited public transportation. So a lot of people would need to find new jobs or get raises for that to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Google maps says 25 miles. It takes me a little more than 30 minutes to drive. It would take 2 hours, 22 minutes by bike. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bobman@unilem.org -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) Ahh yes. Our planet is dying so you can live too far from work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I could afford closer housing, I would. If billions of people could afford to eat with minimal environmental impact, we would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. I'm sure you have no other options. You need this, otherwise you would literally die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah shelter is one of the main human necessities. Have you heard the term "died from exposure"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 1 point 2 years ago Right, but what quality does the shelter need to be? Lol. Not sure why you think you have a point by saying 'all or nothing.' It just shows you don't understand the argument, so you try to replace it with something that's easier for you to argue against. permalink fedilink source parent [–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ahh yes. Our planet is dying due to actions outside of the average person's control but this commenter is really to blame for driving to work. Just like plastic straws in juiceboxes are why the ocean is a mess...damn kids... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Right. Because we're all to blame, then none of us are to blame. Great logic. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For pretty much any world-impacting issue, corporations - not individuals, even all of us combined - are causing significantly more damage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do the corporations stay in business without customers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Having a big back yard is a human right you damned communist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fung@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Can I ask how far you live from work? I've always tried to keep my commute distance short because I hated the time I wasted driving. Eventually I sold my car for a bike and have been much happier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A lot of north American cities are too expensive to live close to the business district so people live further out in the suburbs. With limited public transportation. So a lot of people would need to find new jobs or get raises for that to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Google maps says 25 miles. It takes me a little more than 30 minutes to drive. It would take 2 hours, 22 minutes by bike. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A lot of north American cities are too expensive to live close to the business district so people live further out in the suburbs. With limited public transportation. So a lot of people would need to find new jobs or get raises for that to work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Google maps says 25 miles. It takes me a little more than 30 minutes to drive. It would take 2 hours, 22 minutes by bike. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bobman@unilem.org -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) Ahh yes. Our planet is dying so you can live too far from work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I could afford closer housing, I would. If billions of people could afford to eat with minimal environmental impact, we would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. I'm sure you have no other options. You need this, otherwise you would literally die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah shelter is one of the main human necessities. Have you heard the term "died from exposure"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 1 point 2 years ago Right, but what quality does the shelter need to be? Lol. Not sure why you think you have a point by saying 'all or nothing.' It just shows you don't understand the argument, so you try to replace it with something that's easier for you to argue against. permalink fedilink source parent [–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ahh yes. Our planet is dying due to actions outside of the average person's control but this commenter is really to blame for driving to work. Just like plastic straws in juiceboxes are why the ocean is a mess...damn kids... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Right. Because we're all to blame, then none of us are to blame. Great logic. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For pretty much any world-impacting issue, corporations - not individuals, even all of us combined - are causing significantly more damage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do the corporations stay in business without customers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Having a big back yard is a human right you damned communist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I could afford closer housing, I would. If billions of people could afford to eat with minimal environmental impact, we would permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. I'm sure you have no other options. You need this, otherwise you would literally die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah shelter is one of the main human necessities. Have you heard the term "died from exposure"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 1 point 2 years ago Right, but what quality does the shelter need to be? Lol. Not sure why you think you have a point by saying 'all or nothing.' It just shows you don't understand the argument, so you try to replace it with something that's easier for you to argue against. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. I'm sure you have no other options. You need this, otherwise you would literally die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah shelter is one of the main human necessities. Have you heard the term "died from exposure"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 1 point 2 years ago Right, but what quality does the shelter need to be? Lol. Not sure why you think you have a point by saying 'all or nothing.' It just shows you don't understand the argument, so you try to replace it with something that's easier for you to argue against. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah shelter is one of the main human necessities. Have you heard the term "died from exposure"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 1 point 2 years ago Right, but what quality does the shelter need to be? Lol. Not sure why you think you have a point by saying 'all or nothing.' It just shows you don't understand the argument, so you try to replace it with something that's easier for you to argue against. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org 1 point 2 years ago Right, but what quality does the shelter need to be? Lol. Not sure why you think you have a point by saying 'all or nothing.' It just shows you don't understand the argument, so you try to replace it with something that's easier for you to argue against. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ahh yes. Our planet is dying due to actions outside of the average person's control but this commenter is really to blame for driving to work. Just like plastic straws in juiceboxes are why the ocean is a mess...damn kids... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Right. Because we're all to blame, then none of us are to blame. Great logic. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For pretty much any world-impacting issue, corporations - not individuals, even all of us combined - are causing significantly more damage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do the corporations stay in business without customers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Right. Because we're all to blame, then none of us are to blame. Great logic. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For pretty much any world-impacting issue, corporations - not individuals, even all of us combined - are causing significantly more damage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do the corporations stay in business without customers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) For pretty much any world-impacting issue, corporations - not individuals, even all of us combined - are causing significantly more damage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do the corporations stay in business without customers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do the corporations stay in business without customers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lobbyists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Really? Lobbyists keep corporations afloat without customers? Hey man, so long as you're not to blame :) lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's capitalism, baby. Push out the competition, establish yourself as the only supplier, and force everyone to become reliant on you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Having a big back yard is a human right you damned communist permalink fedilink source parent