▲ 367 ▼ Hell freezes over as Apple supports right-to-repair bill (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by octalfudge@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why alarm systems??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm guessing because then states would need to heavily modify code laws on things like fire alarm requirements. Those regulations are for anyone who might have to walk into your house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago There aren't regulations on security systems to my knowledge. Fire alarms work independent but they can optionally operate with a security system. Security systems are consumer devices, you can buy them yourself anywhere without any licensing or regulation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Legal and liability nightmare I'd guess. Imagine someone dies in a house fire so they sue the repair shop, or insurance refuses to pay because you modified your alarm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -1 points 2 years ago Nobody talking about fire alarms still permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) For the same reason you need a licence in most places to install fire and security systems. If you make a mistake, people can die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said fire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The proposed legislation: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB244/id/2832427 (ii) A product or component of an “alarm system” as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 7590.1 of the Business and Professions Code. Code, including a fire protection system, as defined in the California Fire Code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago That makes sense then. When you search alarm system anywhere else you will get results for security systems which these days are simple consumer devices that lock customers into sketchy proprietary "ecosystems" that require subscription services that prevent users from operating and repairing by themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm guessing because then states would need to heavily modify code laws on things like fire alarm requirements. Those regulations are for anyone who might have to walk into your house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago There aren't regulations on security systems to my knowledge. Fire alarms work independent but they can optionally operate with a security system. Security systems are consumer devices, you can buy them yourself anywhere without any licensing or regulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago There aren't regulations on security systems to my knowledge. Fire alarms work independent but they can optionally operate with a security system. Security systems are consumer devices, you can buy them yourself anywhere without any licensing or regulation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Legal and liability nightmare I'd guess. Imagine someone dies in a house fire so they sue the repair shop, or insurance refuses to pay because you modified your alarm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -1 points 2 years ago Nobody talking about fire alarms still permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -1 points 2 years ago Nobody talking about fire alarms still permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) For the same reason you need a licence in most places to install fire and security systems. If you make a mistake, people can die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said fire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The proposed legislation: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB244/id/2832427 (ii) A product or component of an “alarm system” as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 7590.1 of the Business and Professions Code. Code, including a fire protection system, as defined in the California Fire Code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago That makes sense then. When you search alarm system anywhere else you will get results for security systems which these days are simple consumer devices that lock customers into sketchy proprietary "ecosystems" that require subscription services that prevent users from operating and repairing by themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said fire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The proposed legislation: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB244/id/2832427 (ii) A product or component of an “alarm system” as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 7590.1 of the Business and Professions Code. Code, including a fire protection system, as defined in the California Fire Code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago That makes sense then. When you search alarm system anywhere else you will get results for security systems which these days are simple consumer devices that lock customers into sketchy proprietary "ecosystems" that require subscription services that prevent users from operating and repairing by themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The proposed legislation: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB244/id/2832427 (ii) A product or component of an “alarm system” as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 7590.1 of the Business and Professions Code. Code, including a fire protection system, as defined in the California Fire Code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago That makes sense then. When you search alarm system anywhere else you will get results for security systems which these days are simple consumer devices that lock customers into sketchy proprietary "ecosystems" that require subscription services that prevent users from operating and repairing by themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago That makes sense then. When you search alarm system anywhere else you will get results for security systems which these days are simple consumer devices that lock customers into sketchy proprietary "ecosystems" that require subscription services that prevent users from operating and repairing by themselves. permalink fedilink source parent