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Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support (www.bbc.com)
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[–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

I think there are other possible conclusions that are less about anything good and more about destroying perceived enemies.

I'm not talking about those actions. Hamas has participated in too many good faith negotiations, both with Israel and the PNA, for an organization that only cares about its own existence. See for example: 2013-2014 unity government, 2008 ceasefire, 2012-2013 ceasefire.

While I support a Two State Solution, I don't think this is good strategy for accomplishing it, and is far more likely to accelerate the destruction of the Palestinian people.

Then what do you suggest instead?

I don't see hamas as freedom fighters at all. I see them as misguided jihadists with an effective propaganda wing and a savvy sense for politics.

I mean they produce results. You can think there are better ways (I don't see them, but maybe they exist), but you can't argue with results.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The results are exactly what I'm concerned with. As I said, I think the result for the Palestinian people is going to be a worsening of the situation for Palestinians. Not a bettering. More dead and less rights. Not more rights and freedoms.

    That said, I do not have any ideas for how to actually accomplish a two state solution.

    I also don't see how engaging in good faith negotiations automatically makes them working for a good cause. Anyone can engage in negotiations any time it benefits them to do so.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    As I said, I think the result for the Palestinian people is going to be a worsening of the situation for Palestinians.

    So here's the core issue: Palestinians will never earn their freedom out of Israeli goodwill. Any gains will have to be made in spite of Israel's insistence that they're entitled to all of Palestine. No matter what method you pick, things will have to get worse before they get better. This is independent of whether this particular method will work or not.

    That said, I do not have any ideas for how to actually accomplish a two state solution.

    Exactly. What Hamas is doing is ugly, but they (and Palestinian resistance as a whole) are doing what they can in an impossible situation. Of course this is aside from the dictatorship aspect; they should definitely stop doing that. Anyway what I'm trying to say is: There's only one way forward for Palestinians and it's to force Israel to keep destroying Western goodwill until it's all gone. They're doing a good job on that department, which is what I was referring to as "results". Remember that 2024 is the first time Palestine becomes an election issue in the West in 20 years. What Israel lost in this genocide cannot be underestimated.

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