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xkcd #2942: Fluid Speech (imgs.xkcd.com)

submitted 2 years ago by Deebster@programming.dev to c/linguistics@mander.xyz

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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/15125500

xkcd #2942: Fluid Speech

https://xkcd.com/2942

explainxkcd.com for #2942

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Thank you to linguist Gretchen McCulloch for teaching me about phonetic assimilation, and for teaching me that if you stand around in public reading texts from a linguist and murmuring example phrases to yourself, people will eventually ask if you're okay.

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[–] apolo399@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I can never escape the chilean diss. /j

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[–] apolo399@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

There's this book I really enjoy, "From Latin to Spanish" by Paul Lloyd, that goes at length on the phonological and syntactical evolution of spanish and, damn, spanish really did take quite the funky path in the evolution of its phoneme system while portuguese remained conservative in plenty of its inventory. It's really fun to compare them and see where they diverged and how some phenomena are really quite distinctly romance, like palatalization due to a yod.

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[–] apolo399@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

No, thank you for the wall of text! I enjoy this type of discussion and even more so on spanish and portuguese.

I really find interesting the connection you make with the Caribbean dialects. There has been a great influx of venezuelans and cubans in the south of Brazil and I'm astonished by the similarities that they share with portuguese, sometimes in the choice of vocabulary, some other times in grammatical constructions, and I've already heard a cuban or two pronounce /r/ as is done in portuguese.

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