▲ 1305 ▼ Wagner troops ‘plotting march to Russia to avenge leader’s death’ (uk.news.yahoo.com) submitted 2 years ago by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 228 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (5 children) Wagner group doesn't have any air assets, the Air Force probably could annihilate them on the way to Moscow. Not much cover in Russia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that did not work so well the first time. No idea if they still have any anti air capacity though. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/26/wagner-group-shot-down-seven-russian-aircraft-coup-attempt/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago not anymore, they had to give up all heavy equipment permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Russian Air Force sucks absolute balls at CAS. Apart from their general systemic issues, they don’t train for CAS, and it shows in Ukraine. Also, when Wagner tried to bum-rush Moscow the first time, pilots who actually attempted CAS missions didn’t do so well - there are several videos of them trying to airstrike Wagner positions and columns where the Russian pilots are not even close to putting munitions on-target effectively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Wagner even shot down one Russian helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Silverseren@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Wagner did manage to take down quite a few Russian air units in a short period of time before. Whether that was due to lack of organization and command among the Russian military because of the surprise of Wagner's actions is up for debate, but I guess we might get to see how that turns out this time around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.businessinsider.com/wagner-prigozhin-took-down-7-russia-helicopters-plane-rebellion-ukraine-2023-6?op=1 They have decent aa, they were brutal on Russian jets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Anti-aircraft is different than air assets I get it that both are AA but I meant an air assets not anti-aircraft. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] fluke@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Same could have been said for their day trip. And that saw several helicopters and a couple of fixed wing aircraft getting knocked out the sky. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that did not work so well the first time. No idea if they still have any anti air capacity though. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/26/wagner-group-shot-down-seven-russian-aircraft-coup-attempt/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago not anymore, they had to give up all heavy equipment permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago not anymore, they had to give up all heavy equipment permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Russian Air Force sucks absolute balls at CAS. Apart from their general systemic issues, they don’t train for CAS, and it shows in Ukraine. Also, when Wagner tried to bum-rush Moscow the first time, pilots who actually attempted CAS missions didn’t do so well - there are several videos of them trying to airstrike Wagner positions and columns where the Russian pilots are not even close to putting munitions on-target effectively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Wagner even shot down one Russian helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Wagner even shot down one Russian helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Wagner did manage to take down quite a few Russian air units in a short period of time before. Whether that was due to lack of organization and command among the Russian military because of the surprise of Wagner's actions is up for debate, but I guess we might get to see how that turns out this time around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.businessinsider.com/wagner-prigozhin-took-down-7-russia-helicopters-plane-rebellion-ukraine-2023-6?op=1 They have decent aa, they were brutal on Russian jets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Anti-aircraft is different than air assets I get it that both are AA but I meant an air assets not anti-aircraft. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Anti-aircraft is different than air assets I get it that both are AA but I meant an air assets not anti-aircraft. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fluke@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Same could have been said for their day trip. And that saw several helicopters and a couple of fixed wing aircraft getting knocked out the sky. permalink fedilink source parent