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[–] 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The frightening realisation to take away is that most people don’t have a visceral horror of fascism in the way that progressives on Mastodon do. Which makes sense: if fascism was regarded with widespread revulsion, the Trumps and Orbans and Netanyahus of this world would be as successful as someone running a dogshit sandwich stall at the local market.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    You are totally right.

    Fascism appeals to humanity's most basic impulses and fascists will therefore always be a threat to democracy.

    People crave the strong, authoritarian leader who will protect them from danger.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    The frightening realisation to take away is that most people don’t have a visceral horror of fascism in the way that progressives on Mastodon do.

    Oh, don't worry. Many of the people on the Fediverse don't have a visceral horror of fascism either. To them it's "Both sides are fascist" because otherwise they might feel uncomfortable letting Trump win, and wouldn't feeling uncomfortable about that just be awful.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    most people don’t have a visceral horror of fascism

    No the problem is instead of:

    Fascists vs non-fascist

    We get:

    Fascists vs slightly less fascist

    That's not good enough to win elections. It's not a binary choice between 0 and 1, it's 0.5 and 1.

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  • [+] -22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Y'all know there is a third choice? protest vote.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Uhh, Trump was the protest vote for a lot of people, unfortunately (Defifuckinlutely not me). Also, soooo few people vote, particularly in non-presedential year elections.

    I always strategically vote for the best candidate, and live in a state which allows me to do so without impacting chances of the (more) fascist candidate winning the general election.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's not going to stop trump.

    What will stop trump is running a good candidate.

    But Biden and the people he appointed to run the DNC would rather trump win than Biden step aside for the good of the country

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You are missing the point...

    Neither side is a good choice. No matter who they run. Deny theme electoral legitimacy

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Biden and the people he appointed to head the DNC don't have to be the people running the DNC...

    We can replace them and have a functional leftwing party again.

    It's not quick, and it's not painless, but it's possible.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    We already wasted a generation on this circle jerk.... If not two tbh

    Why would I ever play their games again?

    Protest vote until third party candidate arrives to capture us or I die in this clown dystopia as is and hope next generation can do better.

    I don't see any other option here. An

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Depending on where you live a protest vote is perfect. If you live in a swing state, you should vote for Biden or Trump. If you live in a solid state like California, voting third party won't hurt either candidates chances.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There is thus assumption I care about "hurting" either one...

    I am trying to hurt BOTH

    Deny their legitimacy

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  • [+] -15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Says the guy whose head has been in the sand while we talk about what a bad choice Biden is for a couple years now.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    This comment should be deleted soon

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Now? You mean after the dems refused to allow a primary / primary debates and have been shouting from the rooftops that dementia grandpa is the only candidate who can beat Trump?

    Correction. Genocide enabling dementia grandpa

    Hmmm….

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    This comment should be deleted soon

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I got a bowl of fresh popcorn here. Whoever the dems choose, they screwed themselves with their own choices.

    Bernie would beat Trump by 20-30 points but the donor class would rather have Trump than that.

    It’s not looking good.

    It’s obvious Biden is going to lose unless he steps down.

    Corporate dems would end up choosing someone like Hillary - who is the only person to ever lose against Trump lol….

    I don’t have a lot of hope. The way it stands now, Trump is going to win. It just an obvious and blatant fact.

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