▲ 643 ▼ Secret Service Agents Were in Contact With Far-Right Oath Keepers - A new report reveals members of the Secret Service were in communication with the group’s radical leader, Stewart Rhodes (newrepublic.com) submitted 2 years ago by gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 143 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 41 points 2 years ago (2 children) Remember Champ biting specific members of the secret service? Dogs know. Dogs always know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that's why some rip kids' faces off, they all deserve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also why they shit on grass. They know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago !fucklawns is leaking (not that there's anything wrong with that). permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures permalink fedilink source parent [–] sheilzy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That was actually Major, their younger dog at the time. Champ was their elderly dog who died a couple years ago. They since got a younger pup, Commander, and he too, has been biting staffers, but I don't know if they revealed which agencies the victims work for. Maybe Commander is copying what his elder brother does, but iirc Major doesn't live in the White House too often nowadays. He might just have the same intuition. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) In case anyone, like me, wants a source for Pence refusing to get in the car with the Secret Service. It’s from the book “I Alone Can Fix It.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/ The “terrified” part is speculation, but potentially true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Sounds to me like Pence was tipped off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they would have used 'the VP has been kidnapped by Antifa!' as justification for the insurrection act. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago They were chanting "hang Pence" and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear. permalink fedilink source parent [–] athos77@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do we have any proof that the messages were deleted on the instruction of the White House? I've always thought they arranged the mass-deletion on their own - but it was a very busy time and I might well have missed the bit about them being ordered to delete them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well it helped Trump, was against policy, and they answered to him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they used SMS those records are still around. Or did they use something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 41 points 2 years ago (2 children) Remember Champ biting specific members of the secret service? Dogs know. Dogs always know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that's why some rip kids' faces off, they all deserve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also why they shit on grass. They know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago !fucklawns is leaking (not that there's anything wrong with that). permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures permalink fedilink source parent [–] sheilzy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That was actually Major, their younger dog at the time. Champ was their elderly dog who died a couple years ago. They since got a younger pup, Commander, and he too, has been biting staffers, but I don't know if they revealed which agencies the victims work for. Maybe Commander is copying what his elder brother does, but iirc Major doesn't live in the White House too often nowadays. He might just have the same intuition. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that's why some rip kids' faces off, they all deserve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also why they shit on grass. They know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago !fucklawns is leaking (not that there's anything wrong with that). permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also why they shit on grass. They know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago !fucklawns is leaking (not that there's anything wrong with that). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago !fucklawns is leaking (not that there's anything wrong with that). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sheilzy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That was actually Major, their younger dog at the time. Champ was their elderly dog who died a couple years ago. They since got a younger pup, Commander, and he too, has been biting staffers, but I don't know if they revealed which agencies the victims work for. Maybe Commander is copying what his elder brother does, but iirc Major doesn't live in the White House too often nowadays. He might just have the same intuition. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) In case anyone, like me, wants a source for Pence refusing to get in the car with the Secret Service. It’s from the book “I Alone Can Fix It.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/ The “terrified” part is speculation, but potentially true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Sounds to me like Pence was tipped off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they would have used 'the VP has been kidnapped by Antifa!' as justification for the insurrection act. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago They were chanting "hang Pence" and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Sounds to me like Pence was tipped off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they would have used 'the VP has been kidnapped by Antifa!' as justification for the insurrection act. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago They were chanting "hang Pence" and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago They were chanting "hang Pence" and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athos77@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do we have any proof that the messages were deleted on the instruction of the White House? I've always thought they arranged the mass-deletion on their own - but it was a very busy time and I might well have missed the bit about them being ordered to delete them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well it helped Trump, was against policy, and they answered to him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they used SMS those records are still around. Or did they use something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well it helped Trump, was against policy, and they answered to him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they used SMS those records are still around. Or did they use something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they used SMS those records are still around. Or did they use something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they used SMS those records are still around. Or did they use something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they used SMS those records are still around. Or did they use something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic. It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told. permalink fedilink source parent