▲ 72 ▼ Immigration fears are pushing centrists to the right in the US and Europe (www.politico.com) submitted 2 years ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 46 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, you think they'll negotiate with you. They won't. They don't care about you, they care about making money. If they pay you more, they make less money. You think they'll pay you more if there are no immigrants. They have no reason to. They don't like you more than they like foreigners. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as there isn't enough people waiting on jobs to easy replace someone, there is room for negation because if the guy packs up, the work won't be done and no money is made. Sure, the company can pack up shop and relocate to a different country, but that also has a bunch of costs in itself. It may be more profitable to pay people slightly more - again, negotiation. But again, that is only possible if it isn't easier to just quickly hire someone else. You don't need to believe me, just check how the average hungarian wage increased in the last 20 years. That's the effect when there aren't enough surplus workers, so employed people can't be easily replaced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So your country has such a tiny population as so few people unemployed that if they banned all immigrants, corporations would not have enough employees to make profits and wouldn't finds some place to be more profitable if that's the case? Because you're right, I don't believe you. Since that is not how anything works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago It's literally how it worked. You can check the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as there isn't enough people waiting on jobs to easy replace someone, there is room for negation because if the guy packs up, the work won't be done and no money is made. Sure, the company can pack up shop and relocate to a different country, but that also has a bunch of costs in itself. It may be more profitable to pay people slightly more - again, negotiation. But again, that is only possible if it isn't easier to just quickly hire someone else. You don't need to believe me, just check how the average hungarian wage increased in the last 20 years. That's the effect when there aren't enough surplus workers, so employed people can't be easily replaced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So your country has such a tiny population as so few people unemployed that if they banned all immigrants, corporations would not have enough employees to make profits and wouldn't finds some place to be more profitable if that's the case? Because you're right, I don't believe you. Since that is not how anything works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago It's literally how it worked. You can check the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So your country has such a tiny population as so few people unemployed that if they banned all immigrants, corporations would not have enough employees to make profits and wouldn't finds some place to be more profitable if that's the case? Because you're right, I don't believe you. Since that is not how anything works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago It's literally how it worked. You can check the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago It's literally how it worked. You can check the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent