▲ 128 ▼ Queer Activists Are Making BDS a Key Question of Pride This Year (truthout.org) submitted 2 years ago by Five@slrpnk.net to c/lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 years ago solidarity? what's that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lembas@lemm.ee 55 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you read the article? No, we are not. The article describes multiple queer activists and groups supporting BDS as a component of Pride. protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here The article also describes the direct link between BDS and Pride. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 years ago me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action solidarity in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lembas@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re not. encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality” involvement between feminism and pride involvement between BLM and pride and another involvement between the anti war movement and pride involvement between the civil rights movement and pride and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Goddamnit Patrick, transgender is not a noun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) "I got mine. Fuck you." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) war between Israel and Palestine Not a war. It's a genocide, and it's Israel that is perpetrating it. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights...just getting started Cool. And you'll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like "fuck you, I got mine" as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they're not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it's okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that's none of your concern, I'm sure. The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago Yes, we are, permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 years ago solidarity? what's that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lembas@lemm.ee 55 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you read the article? No, we are not. The article describes multiple queer activists and groups supporting BDS as a component of Pride. protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here The article also describes the direct link between BDS and Pride. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 years ago me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action solidarity in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lembas@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re not. encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality” involvement between feminism and pride involvement between BLM and pride and another involvement between the anti war movement and pride involvement between the civil rights movement and pride and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 years ago me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action solidarity in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lembas@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re not. encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality” involvement between feminism and pride involvement between BLM and pride and another involvement between the anti war movement and pride involvement between the civil rights movement and pride and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 years ago me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action solidarity in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lembas@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re not. encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality” involvement between feminism and pride involvement between BLM and pride and another involvement between the anti war movement and pride involvement between the civil rights movement and pride and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re not. encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality” involvement between feminism and pride involvement between BLM and pride and another involvement between the anti war movement and pride involvement between the civil rights movement and pride and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re not. encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality” involvement between feminism and pride involvement between BLM and pride and another involvement between the anti war movement and pride involvement between the civil rights movement and pride and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial. the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Goddamnit Patrick, transgender is not a noun. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Goddamnit Patrick, transgender is not a noun. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) "I got mine. Fuck you." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) war between Israel and Palestine Not a war. It's a genocide, and it's Israel that is perpetrating it. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights...just getting started Cool. And you'll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like "fuck you, I got mine" as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they're not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it's okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that's none of your concern, I'm sure. The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) war between Israel and Palestine Not a war. It's a genocide, and it's Israel that is perpetrating it. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights...just getting started Cool. And you'll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like "fuck you, I got mine" as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they're not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it's okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that's none of your concern, I'm sure. The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) war between Israel and Palestine Not a war. It's a genocide, and it's Israel that is perpetrating it. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights...just getting started Cool. And you'll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like "fuck you, I got mine" as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they're not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it's okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that's none of your concern, I'm sure. The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights. permalink fedilink source parent