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I actually find this talking point so braindead that, to this day, I still have a hard time believing that people genuinely believe it. (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

So you're saying that racism and mass murder did not exist under communist China?

What about Russification in the Soviet Union? Minorities were marginalized.

Why would it be a problem if the Nazis were actually left-wing? You're not realizing you're actually a victim of a fallacy. And even more concerning, you're trying to use the same fallacy to attack back. It's just flawed logic all over the place.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    As I understand it the keystone between left and right is that:
    The left belief is that all people are created equal and should have equal authority to point out wrong doing. The right belief is that people should be in a hierarchy with people at the top exerting control downward.

    I think they are actually just saying if you really believe everyone is equal you can't pick a group to target for mass murder. But if you are at the top of a pyramid tge people below you naturally look expendable.

    At least that is my reading of this debate.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago

    And my point was that even in the left, murder, discrimination and racism can exist.

    People just choose to think their position is ideal and the opposition is flawed. This type of brainwashing is disgusting.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    "I don't like nazis"

    "YEAH? Whatabout Commies?! Huh? HUH?"

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    What? I'm just saying that being racist or a murderer is totally unrelated to political views. Those can happen in both the left and right.

    Guys, you're smarter than this. For real.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The conversation is about nazis. You keep trying to talk about communists.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I said it doesn't matter if the Nazis were right wing or left wing, what matters is that they were criminals. Then that person said that mass murder and racism is only aligned with the right, so I showed him/her that that is wrong, murder and racism can also happen on the left.

    The point being that just because in the past there were rotten apples in the left/right, it doesn't mean that being in the left/right makes you a rotten apple.

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  • [+] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Ok, so if it is important to keep awareness, why did people get triggered here when I pointed out that there have also been murderers, racists and dictators in the left? Is it fine to keep awareness only for the opposition?

    Keeping an eye on this is exactly the type of fear that the Republicans use to suppress the left. "A leftist president? Have you seen North Korea?"

    It's just flawed logic.

    The only logic that has created the perfect conditions for racists in power is exactly this type of discrimination based on past examples.

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