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[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 202 points 2 years ago (4 children) It's Afrikaans, not Dutch. It's close though. We can understand written Afrikaans. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago* (3 children) For non-speakers, it's kind of like reading Scots as a monolingual English speaker. https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_leid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did they ever fix the issue that an American teen used a hilariously bad interpretation of the Scots language to write thousands of articles on the Scots wiki? https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/scots-wikipedia-language-american-teenager.html https://old.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/ive_discovered_that_almost_every_single_article/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* Only partially, unfortunately. There aren't a lot of people who speak full on Scots, the majority of Scotland speaks a dialect of English with a handful of Scots vocabulary now. It's an endangered language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Funny. If you say the words out loud they're much easier to understand. permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago It's like reading a Nac Mac Feegle speaking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 years ago (2 children) That explains the neutral tone. It's something important far away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also that newspaper is called "The Fatherland". It's a pretty good hint of where they stand in the whole Left-Right political spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Which is super weird in it self. I mean, do South African white people call their colonist nation their "Fatherland"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago FYI- South Africa is kind of unique in that it was settled by a ruling class as opposed to the normal dregs like most other places. The maintained their close relationship to home and superior status to their slaves/servants much longer than other places. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago I think they call it the Volkstaat permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "mother country" or "motherland" is pretty common for descendants of European colonists/emigrees. I know Germans call it "fatherland" instead, probably the Dutch too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see permalink fedilink source parent [–] FreeFacts@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well, the Union of South Africa were participants in the war against Germany, so that's still a bit weird. Don't know about the affiliation of the magazine in question, but the support for joining the allies wasn't clear cut, but only a narrow majority among the ruling white class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago There was a strong pro-Nazi contingent amongst (mainly) Afrikaans-speaking South Africans. That's not to say by any stretch that Afrikaners were mostly pro-Nazi, though. Jan Smuts was an Afrikaner and was both a Field Marshal in the South African defence forces and the prime minister during WW2 - he wasn't exactly pro-British (he fought against them in the second Boer war), but he was very strongly anti-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes, just like Americans they think it's their country and the original inhabitants have no place in their country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 2 years ago It's Afrikaans, not Dutch. Hitler dood? Lekker bru! permalink fedilink source parent [–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Would you translate the bold text below the subtitles? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mononomi@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Alright this is what I understand as a dutchie Hitler is dead and Dönitz is now the leader in Germany, a British newspaper writes today: "Never before in history has the perspective of peace been so ?? made a possibility of the long war" The sentence structure is pretty confusing to me and I don't know some words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago Thanks you beat me to it. Yeah it's something like how abrupt the change of prospect is from an extended war to peace. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Obviously, he's so dood. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rinkink@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Crude translation, trying to keep the word order the same. Hitler's death and Dönitz 's acceptance of rule in Germany led a British paper to write: "Never before in the history has the prospect of peace so suddenly changed to the possibility of a protracted war." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago* (3 children) For non-speakers, it's kind of like reading Scots as a monolingual English speaker. https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_leid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did they ever fix the issue that an American teen used a hilariously bad interpretation of the Scots language to write thousands of articles on the Scots wiki? https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/scots-wikipedia-language-american-teenager.html https://old.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/ive_discovered_that_almost_every_single_article/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* Only partially, unfortunately. There aren't a lot of people who speak full on Scots, the majority of Scotland speaks a dialect of English with a handful of Scots vocabulary now. It's an endangered language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Funny. If you say the words out loud they're much easier to understand. permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago It's like reading a Nac Mac Feegle speaking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did they ever fix the issue that an American teen used a hilariously bad interpretation of the Scots language to write thousands of articles on the Scots wiki? https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/scots-wikipedia-language-american-teenager.html https://old.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/ive_discovered_that_almost_every_single_article/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* Only partially, unfortunately. There aren't a lot of people who speak full on Scots, the majority of Scotland speaks a dialect of English with a handful of Scots vocabulary now. It's an endangered language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* Only partially, unfortunately. There aren't a lot of people who speak full on Scots, the majority of Scotland speaks a dialect of English with a handful of Scots vocabulary now. It's an endangered language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Funny. If you say the words out loud they're much easier to understand. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago It's like reading a Nac Mac Feegle speaking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 years ago (2 children) That explains the neutral tone. It's something important far away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also that newspaper is called "The Fatherland". It's a pretty good hint of where they stand in the whole Left-Right political spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Which is super weird in it self. I mean, do South African white people call their colonist nation their "Fatherland"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago FYI- South Africa is kind of unique in that it was settled by a ruling class as opposed to the normal dregs like most other places. The maintained their close relationship to home and superior status to their slaves/servants much longer than other places. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago I think they call it the Volkstaat permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "mother country" or "motherland" is pretty common for descendants of European colonists/emigrees. I know Germans call it "fatherland" instead, probably the Dutch too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see permalink fedilink source parent [–] FreeFacts@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well, the Union of South Africa were participants in the war against Germany, so that's still a bit weird. Don't know about the affiliation of the magazine in question, but the support for joining the allies wasn't clear cut, but only a narrow majority among the ruling white class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago There was a strong pro-Nazi contingent amongst (mainly) Afrikaans-speaking South Africans. That's not to say by any stretch that Afrikaners were mostly pro-Nazi, though. Jan Smuts was an Afrikaner and was both a Field Marshal in the South African defence forces and the prime minister during WW2 - he wasn't exactly pro-British (he fought against them in the second Boer war), but he was very strongly anti-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes, just like Americans they think it's their country and the original inhabitants have no place in their country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also that newspaper is called "The Fatherland". It's a pretty good hint of where they stand in the whole Left-Right political spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Which is super weird in it self. I mean, do South African white people call their colonist nation their "Fatherland"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago FYI- South Africa is kind of unique in that it was settled by a ruling class as opposed to the normal dregs like most other places. The maintained their close relationship to home and superior status to their slaves/servants much longer than other places. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago I think they call it the Volkstaat permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "mother country" or "motherland" is pretty common for descendants of European colonists/emigrees. I know Germans call it "fatherland" instead, probably the Dutch too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Which is super weird in it self. I mean, do South African white people call their colonist nation their "Fatherland"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago FYI- South Africa is kind of unique in that it was settled by a ruling class as opposed to the normal dregs like most other places. The maintained their close relationship to home and superior status to their slaves/servants much longer than other places. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago I think they call it the Volkstaat permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "mother country" or "motherland" is pretty common for descendants of European colonists/emigrees. I know Germans call it "fatherland" instead, probably the Dutch too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago FYI- South Africa is kind of unique in that it was settled by a ruling class as opposed to the normal dregs like most other places. The maintained their close relationship to home and superior status to their slaves/servants much longer than other places. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago I think they call it the Volkstaat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "mother country" or "motherland" is pretty common for descendants of European colonists/emigrees. I know Germans call it "fatherland" instead, probably the Dutch too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FreeFacts@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well, the Union of South Africa were participants in the war against Germany, so that's still a bit weird. Don't know about the affiliation of the magazine in question, but the support for joining the allies wasn't clear cut, but only a narrow majority among the ruling white class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago There was a strong pro-Nazi contingent amongst (mainly) Afrikaans-speaking South Africans. That's not to say by any stretch that Afrikaners were mostly pro-Nazi, though. Jan Smuts was an Afrikaner and was both a Field Marshal in the South African defence forces and the prime minister during WW2 - he wasn't exactly pro-British (he fought against them in the second Boer war), but he was very strongly anti-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes, just like Americans they think it's their country and the original inhabitants have no place in their country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago There was a strong pro-Nazi contingent amongst (mainly) Afrikaans-speaking South Africans. That's not to say by any stretch that Afrikaners were mostly pro-Nazi, though. Jan Smuts was an Afrikaner and was both a Field Marshal in the South African defence forces and the prime minister during WW2 - he wasn't exactly pro-British (he fought against them in the second Boer war), but he was very strongly anti-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes, just like Americans they think it's their country and the original inhabitants have no place in their country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 2 years ago It's Afrikaans, not Dutch. Hitler dood? Lekker bru! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Would you translate the bold text below the subtitles? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mononomi@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Alright this is what I understand as a dutchie Hitler is dead and Dönitz is now the leader in Germany, a British newspaper writes today: "Never before in history has the perspective of peace been so ?? made a possibility of the long war" The sentence structure is pretty confusing to me and I don't know some words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago Thanks you beat me to it. Yeah it's something like how abrupt the change of prospect is from an extended war to peace. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Obviously, he's so dood. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rinkink@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Crude translation, trying to keep the word order the same. Hitler's death and Dönitz 's acceptance of rule in Germany led a British paper to write: "Never before in the history has the prospect of peace so suddenly changed to the possibility of a protracted war." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mononomi@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Alright this is what I understand as a dutchie Hitler is dead and Dönitz is now the leader in Germany, a British newspaper writes today: "Never before in history has the perspective of peace been so ?? made a possibility of the long war" The sentence structure is pretty confusing to me and I don't know some words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago Thanks you beat me to it. Yeah it's something like how abrupt the change of prospect is from an extended war to peace. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago Thanks you beat me to it. Yeah it's something like how abrupt the change of prospect is from an extended war to peace. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Obviously, he's so dood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rinkink@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Crude translation, trying to keep the word order the same. Hitler's death and Dönitz 's acceptance of rule in Germany led a British paper to write: "Never before in the history has the prospect of peace so suddenly changed to the possibility of a protracted war." permalink fedilink source parent