▲ 141 ▼ Let's Try BSD, Part 1 of 7: Introduction (FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD) (lowendbox.com) submitted 2 years ago by jaypatelani@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml 38 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ducking_donuts@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) Faster in what sense? Would you kindly point me to the benchmarks used? It’s easy to find the opposite results so I’m curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Smaller footprint in general, compiled as one (not multimodal kernel+extensions), simpler security models, and simpler init system. All of these will make it snappier out of the box than Linux, just not in the ways you'd want, say, a desktop to be faster. This just dropped as well. You can see where the differences are: https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ducking_donuts@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That makes some sense I suppose. What was it about DragonFlyBSD and macOS kernel? permalink fedilink source parent [–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not sure how much I’d buy into phoronix benchmarks in this case. CentOS Strea, 9 was performing as good, if not better than, the recently released Ubuntu 24.04 and 2 week old FreeBSD 14.1 despite having a 3 year old kernel and being compiled with an equally old version of GCC. Linux is currently suffering from a pstate bug with AMD, too. There’s a reason the BSDs are hardly used in HPC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) JFC. The end all be all of Linux benchmarks, and you're standing up to discredit their results? Phoronix practically wrote the modern book on Linux benchmarks, but please tell us how they are wrong or mistaken. 3 other commentors have deleted theirs already for their inane fanboyisms. You want want to make 4, or do you have some new energy to bring to the conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Why are you being inflammatory for no reason? I’m just saying I don’t think it’d be correct for an OS 3 years in the past to be neck and neck with modern stuff. Log off the computer and go outside lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Why are you? Touch grass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This just dropped as well: https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x/4 permalink fedilink source parent [–] IllNess@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago FreeBSD doesn't have desktop environment built in. So maybe running from command line or installation is a lot faster. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Smaller footprint in general, compiled as one (not multimodal kernel+extensions), simpler security models, and simpler init system. All of these will make it snappier out of the box than Linux, just not in the ways you'd want, say, a desktop to be faster. This just dropped as well. You can see where the differences are: https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ducking_donuts@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That makes some sense I suppose. What was it about DragonFlyBSD and macOS kernel? permalink fedilink source parent [–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not sure how much I’d buy into phoronix benchmarks in this case. CentOS Strea, 9 was performing as good, if not better than, the recently released Ubuntu 24.04 and 2 week old FreeBSD 14.1 despite having a 3 year old kernel and being compiled with an equally old version of GCC. Linux is currently suffering from a pstate bug with AMD, too. There’s a reason the BSDs are hardly used in HPC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) JFC. The end all be all of Linux benchmarks, and you're standing up to discredit their results? Phoronix practically wrote the modern book on Linux benchmarks, but please tell us how they are wrong or mistaken. 3 other commentors have deleted theirs already for their inane fanboyisms. You want want to make 4, or do you have some new energy to bring to the conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Why are you being inflammatory for no reason? I’m just saying I don’t think it’d be correct for an OS 3 years in the past to be neck and neck with modern stuff. Log off the computer and go outside lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Why are you? Touch grass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ducking_donuts@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That makes some sense I suppose. What was it about DragonFlyBSD and macOS kernel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not sure how much I’d buy into phoronix benchmarks in this case. CentOS Strea, 9 was performing as good, if not better than, the recently released Ubuntu 24.04 and 2 week old FreeBSD 14.1 despite having a 3 year old kernel and being compiled with an equally old version of GCC. Linux is currently suffering from a pstate bug with AMD, too. There’s a reason the BSDs are hardly used in HPC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) JFC. The end all be all of Linux benchmarks, and you're standing up to discredit their results? Phoronix practically wrote the modern book on Linux benchmarks, but please tell us how they are wrong or mistaken. 3 other commentors have deleted theirs already for their inane fanboyisms. You want want to make 4, or do you have some new energy to bring to the conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Why are you being inflammatory for no reason? I’m just saying I don’t think it’d be correct for an OS 3 years in the past to be neck and neck with modern stuff. Log off the computer and go outside lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Why are you? Touch grass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) JFC. The end all be all of Linux benchmarks, and you're standing up to discredit their results? Phoronix practically wrote the modern book on Linux benchmarks, but please tell us how they are wrong or mistaken. 3 other commentors have deleted theirs already for their inane fanboyisms. You want want to make 4, or do you have some new energy to bring to the conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Why are you being inflammatory for no reason? I’m just saying I don’t think it’d be correct for an OS 3 years in the past to be neck and neck with modern stuff. Log off the computer and go outside lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Why are you? Touch grass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Why are you being inflammatory for no reason? I’m just saying I don’t think it’d be correct for an OS 3 years in the past to be neck and neck with modern stuff. Log off the computer and go outside lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Why are you? Touch grass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Why are you? Touch grass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This just dropped as well: https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x/4 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago FreeBSD doesn't have desktop environment built in. So maybe running from command line or installation is a lot faster. permalink fedilink source parent