▲ 303 ▼ Exposed: Facebook's Corrupt Spyware is Tracking you OFF the platform (monero.town) submitted 2 years ago by ShadowRebel@monero.town to c/technology@beehaw.org 72 comments fedilink hide all child comments From internal leaks within the company as well as external analysis, the tip of the iceberg behind Facebook's spyware empire is exposed. Take a look to better protect yourself when you're not even on the platform: https://simplifiedprivacy.com/facebooks-corrupt-off-platform-surveillance/
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not in my experience. Anyone I need to talk to has a phone. Everyone else has email or snail mail. Simple. But YMMV. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] foo@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) But your experience is not all experiences permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* True. But I would be shocked — shocked, I say! — at a person who has FB but not a phone, email, nor postal address. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yeah, a lot of people want to video call across phone oses. Like FaceTime works for iphone but not Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) How about texting? Does texting work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) n...no? It's like saying to a person who wants to watch a movie, what about a book? Does reading work? Like no, not really. Not even close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You must not be that interested in staying in contact with your family if you're only willing to use one, specific way to do it and simply refuse to use any other method. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 1 point 2 years ago @VoxAdActa That argument goes both ways. @MJBrune @technology permalink fedilink source parent [–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My mom lives in a different country, is retired and can very easily use Signal to msg me and do video calls. She has no technical education, and is not very good with the devices. But... she could install Signal and use it every day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago Congrats, one data point doesn't define a statistic. Equally, I have family who only use Messenger and can barely work with that. So from my statement, these people exist, even if it's just my family. I know I've seen a lot of similar experiences but even just my direct family is enough to justify me stating that just not using facebook doesn't work for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Facebook has cross platform video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, with messager. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) TIL. I haven’t been on Facebook in so many years that I didn’t know this. Still, given how many good alternatives are out there, it doesn’t seem like a good reason to keep using Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago It's a way to connect with people who only have Facebook accounts and don't want to deal with moving or figuring out another account. Someone will pipe up and say "yeah well my 102 year old grandma figured out signal!" yeah, well good for her, she's largely the exception. People want something simple, that works, that will be around in 10 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foo@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) But your experience is not all experiences permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* True. But I would be shocked — shocked, I say! — at a person who has FB but not a phone, email, nor postal address. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* True. But I would be shocked — shocked, I say! — at a person who has FB but not a phone, email, nor postal address. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yeah, a lot of people want to video call across phone oses. Like FaceTime works for iphone but not Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) How about texting? Does texting work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) n...no? It's like saying to a person who wants to watch a movie, what about a book? Does reading work? Like no, not really. Not even close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You must not be that interested in staying in contact with your family if you're only willing to use one, specific way to do it and simply refuse to use any other method. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 1 point 2 years ago @VoxAdActa That argument goes both ways. @MJBrune @technology permalink fedilink source parent [–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My mom lives in a different country, is retired and can very easily use Signal to msg me and do video calls. She has no technical education, and is not very good with the devices. But... she could install Signal and use it every day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago Congrats, one data point doesn't define a statistic. Equally, I have family who only use Messenger and can barely work with that. So from my statement, these people exist, even if it's just my family. I know I've seen a lot of similar experiences but even just my direct family is enough to justify me stating that just not using facebook doesn't work for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Facebook has cross platform video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, with messager. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) TIL. I haven’t been on Facebook in so many years that I didn’t know this. Still, given how many good alternatives are out there, it doesn’t seem like a good reason to keep using Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago It's a way to connect with people who only have Facebook accounts and don't want to deal with moving or figuring out another account. Someone will pipe up and say "yeah well my 102 year old grandma figured out signal!" yeah, well good for her, she's largely the exception. People want something simple, that works, that will be around in 10 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) How about texting? Does texting work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) n...no? It's like saying to a person who wants to watch a movie, what about a book? Does reading work? Like no, not really. Not even close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You must not be that interested in staying in contact with your family if you're only willing to use one, specific way to do it and simply refuse to use any other method. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 1 point 2 years ago @VoxAdActa That argument goes both ways. @MJBrune @technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) n...no? It's like saying to a person who wants to watch a movie, what about a book? Does reading work? Like no, not really. Not even close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You must not be that interested in staying in contact with your family if you're only willing to use one, specific way to do it and simply refuse to use any other method. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 1 point 2 years ago @VoxAdActa That argument goes both ways. @MJBrune @technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You must not be that interested in staying in contact with your family if you're only willing to use one, specific way to do it and simply refuse to use any other method. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 1 point 2 years ago @VoxAdActa That argument goes both ways. @MJBrune @technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 1 point 2 years ago @VoxAdActa That argument goes both ways. @MJBrune @technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My mom lives in a different country, is retired and can very easily use Signal to msg me and do video calls. She has no technical education, and is not very good with the devices. But... she could install Signal and use it every day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago Congrats, one data point doesn't define a statistic. Equally, I have family who only use Messenger and can barely work with that. So from my statement, these people exist, even if it's just my family. I know I've seen a lot of similar experiences but even just my direct family is enough to justify me stating that just not using facebook doesn't work for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago Congrats, one data point doesn't define a statistic. Equally, I have family who only use Messenger and can barely work with that. So from my statement, these people exist, even if it's just my family. I know I've seen a lot of similar experiences but even just my direct family is enough to justify me stating that just not using facebook doesn't work for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Facebook has cross platform video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, with messager. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) TIL. I haven’t been on Facebook in so many years that I didn’t know this. Still, given how many good alternatives are out there, it doesn’t seem like a good reason to keep using Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago It's a way to connect with people who only have Facebook accounts and don't want to deal with moving or figuring out another account. Someone will pipe up and say "yeah well my 102 year old grandma figured out signal!" yeah, well good for her, she's largely the exception. People want something simple, that works, that will be around in 10 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, with messager. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) TIL. I haven’t been on Facebook in so many years that I didn’t know this. Still, given how many good alternatives are out there, it doesn’t seem like a good reason to keep using Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago It's a way to connect with people who only have Facebook accounts and don't want to deal with moving or figuring out another account. Someone will pipe up and say "yeah well my 102 year old grandma figured out signal!" yeah, well good for her, she's largely the exception. People want something simple, that works, that will be around in 10 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) TIL. I haven’t been on Facebook in so many years that I didn’t know this. Still, given how many good alternatives are out there, it doesn’t seem like a good reason to keep using Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago It's a way to connect with people who only have Facebook accounts and don't want to deal with moving or figuring out another account. Someone will pipe up and say "yeah well my 102 year old grandma figured out signal!" yeah, well good for her, she's largely the exception. People want something simple, that works, that will be around in 10 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago It's a way to connect with people who only have Facebook accounts and don't want to deal with moving or figuring out another account. Someone will pipe up and say "yeah well my 102 year old grandma figured out signal!" yeah, well good for her, she's largely the exception. People want something simple, that works, that will be around in 10 years. permalink fedilink source parent
