▲ 136 ▼ Raspberry Pi is now a public company (techcrunch.com) submitted 2 years ago by chloyster@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 140 points 2 years ago (4 children) is this the 'jumped the shark' moment for companies? as soon as they go 'public' you can no longer assume their product is their priority. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 88 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes You can expect them to drop at maybe one more good product, as going public is what companies do when they want to raise a lot of funds for some project But after THAT, when it turns out that the new product is just... Making money instead of making ALL the money, the investors will take over and from then on it's fucked. But yeah RPi has alternatives now. No need to tie yourself to them when they DO sink. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn't have time or energy to follow up. I've recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I've quite interested. I'd read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven't ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment? Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I'm looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zworf@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* The question is always: What do you want to use it for? When raspberry started the landscape was very difficult. Small computer boards were expensive, now there's the N100 if you need a tiny cheap computer. Microcontrollers were really dumb and unconnected, now there's the ESP32 which has WiFi and Bluetooth and decent performance. Right in the middle of this wide spectrum is the raspberry pi and its clones. This is a very different situation than in the introduction era where PCs were heavy and expensive and microcontrollers were dumb. There was a much wider niche for the raspberry then. For a small server I would now get a $100 N100 from aliexpress. For embedded electronics I would grab a $10 ESP32. Only in the middle is the raspberry pi, but the problem is, it's only in the middle in terms of performance, not price. A raspberry pi with case, PSU, storage etc costs more than a decked out N100, while actually being slower. The only remaining usecase I see for a pi 5 would be an electronics project where you need some more compute than a microcontroller can provide, like some machine vision project. Otherwise: Do you want to make some electronics IoT thingy: Get an ESP32 Do you want a small light computer or server: Get an N100 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago Ad soon as they go public, their product is their share price. And even before then, since most growing private companies seek out private investment long before going public. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Exactly. I'm not worried though. There are so many alternatives these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Would be really nice to name them when posting such a comment... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago Here's one nice list which also reflects the status of their usefulness. Physical availability varies widely, though. https://www.armbian.com/download/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn't have time or energy to follow up. I've recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I've quite interested. I'd read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven't ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment? Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I'm looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Legally the product is no longer their priority, maximising shareholder profits is their priority. Not many companies manage to not get twisted to a worse product for the customers, though their ads get really good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 2 years ago really sounds like the stock market is just human greed distilled and removed from all direct responsibility. i cant understand how anyone can defend it. it is a cancer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 88 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes You can expect them to drop at maybe one more good product, as going public is what companies do when they want to raise a lot of funds for some project But after THAT, when it turns out that the new product is just... Making money instead of making ALL the money, the investors will take over and from then on it's fucked. But yeah RPi has alternatives now. No need to tie yourself to them when they DO sink. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn't have time or energy to follow up. I've recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I've quite interested. I'd read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven't ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment? Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I'm looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zworf@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* The question is always: What do you want to use it for? When raspberry started the landscape was very difficult. Small computer boards were expensive, now there's the N100 if you need a tiny cheap computer. Microcontrollers were really dumb and unconnected, now there's the ESP32 which has WiFi and Bluetooth and decent performance. Right in the middle of this wide spectrum is the raspberry pi and its clones. This is a very different situation than in the introduction era where PCs were heavy and expensive and microcontrollers were dumb. There was a much wider niche for the raspberry then. For a small server I would now get a $100 N100 from aliexpress. For embedded electronics I would grab a $10 ESP32. Only in the middle is the raspberry pi, but the problem is, it's only in the middle in terms of performance, not price. A raspberry pi with case, PSU, storage etc costs more than a decked out N100, while actually being slower. The only remaining usecase I see for a pi 5 would be an electronics project where you need some more compute than a microcontroller can provide, like some machine vision project. Otherwise: Do you want to make some electronics IoT thingy: Get an ESP32 Do you want a small light computer or server: Get an N100 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn't have time or energy to follow up. I've recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I've quite interested. I'd read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven't ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment? Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I'm looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zworf@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* The question is always: What do you want to use it for? When raspberry started the landscape was very difficult. Small computer boards were expensive, now there's the N100 if you need a tiny cheap computer. Microcontrollers were really dumb and unconnected, now there's the ESP32 which has WiFi and Bluetooth and decent performance. Right in the middle of this wide spectrum is the raspberry pi and its clones. This is a very different situation than in the introduction era where PCs were heavy and expensive and microcontrollers were dumb. There was a much wider niche for the raspberry then. For a small server I would now get a $100 N100 from aliexpress. For embedded electronics I would grab a $10 ESP32. Only in the middle is the raspberry pi, but the problem is, it's only in the middle in terms of performance, not price. A raspberry pi with case, PSU, storage etc costs more than a decked out N100, while actually being slower. The only remaining usecase I see for a pi 5 would be an electronics project where you need some more compute than a microcontroller can provide, like some machine vision project. Otherwise: Do you want to make some electronics IoT thingy: Get an ESP32 Do you want a small light computer or server: Get an N100 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* The question is always: What do you want to use it for? When raspberry started the landscape was very difficult. Small computer boards were expensive, now there's the N100 if you need a tiny cheap computer. Microcontrollers were really dumb and unconnected, now there's the ESP32 which has WiFi and Bluetooth and decent performance. Right in the middle of this wide spectrum is the raspberry pi and its clones. This is a very different situation than in the introduction era where PCs were heavy and expensive and microcontrollers were dumb. There was a much wider niche for the raspberry then. For a small server I would now get a $100 N100 from aliexpress. For embedded electronics I would grab a $10 ESP32. Only in the middle is the raspberry pi, but the problem is, it's only in the middle in terms of performance, not price. A raspberry pi with case, PSU, storage etc costs more than a decked out N100, while actually being slower. The only remaining usecase I see for a pi 5 would be an electronics project where you need some more compute than a microcontroller can provide, like some machine vision project. Otherwise: Do you want to make some electronics IoT thingy: Get an ESP32 Do you want a small light computer or server: Get an N100 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago Ad soon as they go public, their product is their share price. And even before then, since most growing private companies seek out private investment long before going public. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Exactly. I'm not worried though. There are so many alternatives these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Would be really nice to name them when posting such a comment... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago Here's one nice list which also reflects the status of their usefulness. Physical availability varies widely, though. https://www.armbian.com/download/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn't have time or energy to follow up. I've recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I've quite interested. I'd read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven't ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment? Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I'm looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Would be really nice to name them when posting such a comment... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago Here's one nice list which also reflects the status of their usefulness. Physical availability varies widely, though. https://www.armbian.com/download/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago Here's one nice list which also reflects the status of their usefulness. Physical availability varies widely, though. https://www.armbian.com/download/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn't have time or energy to follow up. I've recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I've quite interested. I'd read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven't ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment? Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I'm looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Legally the product is no longer their priority, maximising shareholder profits is their priority. Not many companies manage to not get twisted to a worse product for the customers, though their ads get really good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 2 years ago really sounds like the stock market is just human greed distilled and removed from all direct responsibility. i cant understand how anyone can defend it. it is a cancer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 2 years ago really sounds like the stock market is just human greed distilled and removed from all direct responsibility. i cant understand how anyone can defend it. it is a cancer permalink fedilink source parent