▲ 648 ▼ Raspberry Pi launches its IPO (www.raspberrypi.com) submitted 2 years ago by empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 187 comments fedilink hide all child comments It was nice knowing Raspberry Pi while they lasted. Going to suck losing something that has changed the homegrown embedded system hobby forever.
[–] dvdnet62@feddit.nl 33 points 2 years ago (5 children) So, what are the alternatives? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] astanix@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://lemux.minnix.dev/c/sbcs There are so many! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world [B] 25 points 2 years ago Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !sbcs@lemux.minnix.dev permalink fedilink source parent [–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 28 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There's tons of similar SBC's out there from Chinese manufacturers, like Orange Pi, Banana Pi, etc; usually using mediatek RISC-V or rockchip ARM processors. They're all poorly supported on the software and documentation side though and take more work to get going, which has always been where Raspberry shined- nobody else has made embedded computing so easily accessible with click and go OS options and continuous kernel maintenance. Probably the only board closest to software parity is the pine64 boards... but it's still not quite as good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is the key point for alternatives. None seem to have the community and support (docs, s/w quality etc) that is remotely close to that of the Raspberry Pi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Guess the community for some of these is about to get much bigger. I'm not in the market for an SBC but this is a big negative against the Pi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have more features though, like extra Ethernet, PCIe brackets and M2 slots on the board permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those features don't mean shit if you can't use a modern OS after a couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why could you not run a modern OS after a couple of years? Those SBC manufacturers did not invent an entirely new processor architecture for their computers, you can just generically compile the kernel (plus maybe some slight device tree work). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Orange pi is getting better and better. Far from raspberry though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I got a 'LePotato' a few years back when Pi had stock issues, and it worked quite well as a Pi 4 clone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pezmaker@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago* Yep, using one to run clipper for my 3d printer with armbian as the OS. It's been rock solid for me. There obviously some adaptation and discovery when trying to use the io as it's similar-but-not the same as the raspberry pi io and manipulating it is not the same. But it works, it was available, it was competitively cheap, and it's been stable Plus I get to say I'm running my 3d printer on a potato permalink fedilink source parent [–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago LePotato is a great budget board for pi-hole. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think Pine64 is pretty cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] impure9435@kbin.run 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Unfortunately they use Chinese CPUs (made by Rockchip) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which Pi alternatives don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impure9435@kbin.run 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Libre Computer offers some SBCs with Amlogic CPUs. I think the Le Potato might be the most popular one. I just ordered an Alta AML-A311D-CC. I'm really excited to try out how well it performs! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Libre Computer itself is a Chinese company, though, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay, and? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irreticent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies "The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources." Perhaps they're worried about something similar happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that's certainly a thing, but I'd be surprised if China messed with something like Pine64, that's a pretty low-value target to spend so many resources attacking. The bigger targets would be large corporations like Amazon and Apple, as well as military institutions and contractors. It's certainly a valid concern, but it's also a pretty minor one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I suppose you're worried about embedded spyware? permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* Radxa as well. I have a Rock Pi 4B running as my home server and it has been a great Pi 4 alternative. I also have an Indiedroid Nova with RK3588S which should be better than the Pi 5 bit the GPU drovers aren't quite there yet. Once GPU drivers are in it should be an incredible board. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago I like your attitude! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] astanix@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://lemux.minnix.dev/c/sbcs There are so many! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world [B] 25 points 2 years ago Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !sbcs@lemux.minnix.dev permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world [B] 25 points 2 years ago Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !sbcs@lemux.minnix.dev permalink fedilink source parent
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 28 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There's tons of similar SBC's out there from Chinese manufacturers, like Orange Pi, Banana Pi, etc; usually using mediatek RISC-V or rockchip ARM processors. They're all poorly supported on the software and documentation side though and take more work to get going, which has always been where Raspberry shined- nobody else has made embedded computing so easily accessible with click and go OS options and continuous kernel maintenance. Probably the only board closest to software parity is the pine64 boards... but it's still not quite as good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is the key point for alternatives. None seem to have the community and support (docs, s/w quality etc) that is remotely close to that of the Raspberry Pi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Guess the community for some of these is about to get much bigger. I'm not in the market for an SBC but this is a big negative against the Pi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have more features though, like extra Ethernet, PCIe brackets and M2 slots on the board permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those features don't mean shit if you can't use a modern OS after a couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why could you not run a modern OS after a couple of years? Those SBC manufacturers did not invent an entirely new processor architecture for their computers, you can just generically compile the kernel (plus maybe some slight device tree work). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Orange pi is getting better and better. Far from raspberry though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is the key point for alternatives. None seem to have the community and support (docs, s/w quality etc) that is remotely close to that of the Raspberry Pi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Guess the community for some of these is about to get much bigger. I'm not in the market for an SBC but this is a big negative against the Pi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have more features though, like extra Ethernet, PCIe brackets and M2 slots on the board permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those features don't mean shit if you can't use a modern OS after a couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why could you not run a modern OS after a couple of years? Those SBC manufacturers did not invent an entirely new processor architecture for their computers, you can just generically compile the kernel (plus maybe some slight device tree work). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Guess the community for some of these is about to get much bigger. I'm not in the market for an SBC but this is a big negative against the Pi. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have more features though, like extra Ethernet, PCIe brackets and M2 slots on the board permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those features don't mean shit if you can't use a modern OS after a couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why could you not run a modern OS after a couple of years? Those SBC manufacturers did not invent an entirely new processor architecture for their computers, you can just generically compile the kernel (plus maybe some slight device tree work). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those features don't mean shit if you can't use a modern OS after a couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why could you not run a modern OS after a couple of years? Those SBC manufacturers did not invent an entirely new processor architecture for their computers, you can just generically compile the kernel (plus maybe some slight device tree work). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why could you not run a modern OS after a couple of years? Those SBC manufacturers did not invent an entirely new processor architecture for their computers, you can just generically compile the kernel (plus maybe some slight device tree work). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago you can just generically compile the kernel Not always. I have numerous old now useless SBCs that never merged their shit with the mainline linux kernel so my only option is to run something 10+ years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Beagle bone permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Orange pi is getting better and better. Far from raspberry though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I got a 'LePotato' a few years back when Pi had stock issues, and it worked quite well as a Pi 4 clone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pezmaker@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago* Yep, using one to run clipper for my 3d printer with armbian as the OS. It's been rock solid for me. There obviously some adaptation and discovery when trying to use the io as it's similar-but-not the same as the raspberry pi io and manipulating it is not the same. But it works, it was available, it was competitively cheap, and it's been stable Plus I get to say I'm running my 3d printer on a potato permalink fedilink source parent [–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago LePotato is a great budget board for pi-hole. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pezmaker@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago* Yep, using one to run clipper for my 3d printer with armbian as the OS. It's been rock solid for me. There obviously some adaptation and discovery when trying to use the io as it's similar-but-not the same as the raspberry pi io and manipulating it is not the same. But it works, it was available, it was competitively cheap, and it's been stable Plus I get to say I'm running my 3d printer on a potato permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago LePotato is a great budget board for pi-hole. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think Pine64 is pretty cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] impure9435@kbin.run 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Unfortunately they use Chinese CPUs (made by Rockchip) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which Pi alternatives don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impure9435@kbin.run 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Libre Computer offers some SBCs with Amlogic CPUs. I think the Le Potato might be the most popular one. I just ordered an Alta AML-A311D-CC. I'm really excited to try out how well it performs! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Libre Computer itself is a Chinese company, though, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay, and? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irreticent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies "The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources." Perhaps they're worried about something similar happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that's certainly a thing, but I'd be surprised if China messed with something like Pine64, that's a pretty low-value target to spend so many resources attacking. The bigger targets would be large corporations like Amazon and Apple, as well as military institutions and contractors. It's certainly a valid concern, but it's also a pretty minor one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I suppose you're worried about embedded spyware? permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* Radxa as well. I have a Rock Pi 4B running as my home server and it has been a great Pi 4 alternative. I also have an Indiedroid Nova with RK3588S which should be better than the Pi 5 bit the GPU drovers aren't quite there yet. Once GPU drivers are in it should be an incredible board. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impure9435@kbin.run 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Unfortunately they use Chinese CPUs (made by Rockchip) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which Pi alternatives don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impure9435@kbin.run 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Libre Computer offers some SBCs with Amlogic CPUs. I think the Le Potato might be the most popular one. I just ordered an Alta AML-A311D-CC. I'm really excited to try out how well it performs! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Libre Computer itself is a Chinese company, though, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay, and? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irreticent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies "The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources." Perhaps they're worried about something similar happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that's certainly a thing, but I'd be surprised if China messed with something like Pine64, that's a pretty low-value target to spend so many resources attacking. The bigger targets would be large corporations like Amazon and Apple, as well as military institutions and contractors. It's certainly a valid concern, but it's also a pretty minor one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I suppose you're worried about embedded spyware? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which Pi alternatives don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] impure9435@kbin.run 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Libre Computer offers some SBCs with Amlogic CPUs. I think the Le Potato might be the most popular one. I just ordered an Alta AML-A311D-CC. I'm really excited to try out how well it performs! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Libre Computer itself is a Chinese company, though, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impure9435@kbin.run 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Libre Computer offers some SBCs with Amlogic CPUs. I think the Le Potato might be the most popular one. I just ordered an Alta AML-A311D-CC. I'm really excited to try out how well it performs! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Libre Computer itself is a Chinese company, though, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Libre Computer itself is a Chinese company, though, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay, and? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irreticent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies "The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources." Perhaps they're worried about something similar happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that's certainly a thing, but I'd be surprised if China messed with something like Pine64, that's a pretty low-value target to spend so many resources attacking. The bigger targets would be large corporations like Amazon and Apple, as well as military institutions and contractors. It's certainly a valid concern, but it's also a pretty minor one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies "The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources." Perhaps they're worried about something similar happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that's certainly a thing, but I'd be surprised if China messed with something like Pine64, that's a pretty low-value target to spend so many resources attacking. The bigger targets would be large corporations like Amazon and Apple, as well as military institutions and contractors. It's certainly a valid concern, but it's also a pretty minor one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that's certainly a thing, but I'd be surprised if China messed with something like Pine64, that's a pretty low-value target to spend so many resources attacking. The bigger targets would be large corporations like Amazon and Apple, as well as military institutions and contractors. It's certainly a valid concern, but it's also a pretty minor one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I suppose you're worried about embedded spyware? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* Radxa as well. I have a Rock Pi 4B running as my home server and it has been a great Pi 4 alternative. I also have an Indiedroid Nova with RK3588S which should be better than the Pi 5 bit the GPU drovers aren't quite there yet. Once GPU drivers are in it should be an incredible board. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago I like your attitude! permalink fedilink source parent