▲ 527 ▼ Is Your Driving Being Secretly Scored? The insurance industry, hungry for insights into how people drive, has turned to automakers and smartphone apps like Life360. (www.nytimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/technology@lemmy.world 126 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah but I'll be dead before that happens! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Hmm I hope this is not a veiled threat of suicide.... Because the disappearance of ownership is almost here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not. I just don't think car ownership is going anywhere for decades. The government doesn't move that fast for anything. I asked in another place in the thread why the guy thought that but just got downvoted for some reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Precisely because the government drags their feet with proper regulation is why we are here The corporations keep eroding your rights to own anything in the contracts they make you sign (to buy a car for example) They reserve the right to turn features off or hide them behind paywalls without your agreement ... They reserve the right to spy on your with sensors you paid for and sell the data to whomever they want without compensation to you or liability over the consequences of that data being out there They reserve the right to terminate your warranty if you do anything to your car they do not approve of These measures literally dilute what "owning a car" means... This is what people refer to when they say ownership is coming to an end. It doesn't mean you can't have a car... It means the car is not quite yours and may be doing more work and money for someone else after you nicely paid for it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, and I'm as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there's really nothing they can do. And I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car... And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent [–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Better get to it then. I'm predicting somewhere in the next 5 years, true car ownership will be dead for new cars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're already at that point. I will never buy a new car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is it different for used "newish" cars? Or were you referring to used "pre 2018" cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the manufacturer and model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exanime@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Hmm I hope this is not a veiled threat of suicide.... Because the disappearance of ownership is almost here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not. I just don't think car ownership is going anywhere for decades. The government doesn't move that fast for anything. I asked in another place in the thread why the guy thought that but just got downvoted for some reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Precisely because the government drags their feet with proper regulation is why we are here The corporations keep eroding your rights to own anything in the contracts they make you sign (to buy a car for example) They reserve the right to turn features off or hide them behind paywalls without your agreement ... They reserve the right to spy on your with sensors you paid for and sell the data to whomever they want without compensation to you or liability over the consequences of that data being out there They reserve the right to terminate your warranty if you do anything to your car they do not approve of These measures literally dilute what "owning a car" means... This is what people refer to when they say ownership is coming to an end. It doesn't mean you can't have a car... It means the car is not quite yours and may be doing more work and money for someone else after you nicely paid for it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, and I'm as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there's really nothing they can do. And I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car... And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not. I just don't think car ownership is going anywhere for decades. The government doesn't move that fast for anything. I asked in another place in the thread why the guy thought that but just got downvoted for some reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Precisely because the government drags their feet with proper regulation is why we are here The corporations keep eroding your rights to own anything in the contracts they make you sign (to buy a car for example) They reserve the right to turn features off or hide them behind paywalls without your agreement ... They reserve the right to spy on your with sensors you paid for and sell the data to whomever they want without compensation to you or liability over the consequences of that data being out there They reserve the right to terminate your warranty if you do anything to your car they do not approve of These measures literally dilute what "owning a car" means... This is what people refer to when they say ownership is coming to an end. It doesn't mean you can't have a car... It means the car is not quite yours and may be doing more work and money for someone else after you nicely paid for it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, and I'm as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there's really nothing they can do. And I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car... And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Precisely because the government drags their feet with proper regulation is why we are here The corporations keep eroding your rights to own anything in the contracts they make you sign (to buy a car for example) They reserve the right to turn features off or hide them behind paywalls without your agreement ... They reserve the right to spy on your with sensors you paid for and sell the data to whomever they want without compensation to you or liability over the consequences of that data being out there They reserve the right to terminate your warranty if you do anything to your car they do not approve of These measures literally dilute what "owning a car" means... This is what people refer to when they say ownership is coming to an end. It doesn't mean you can't have a car... It means the car is not quite yours and may be doing more work and money for someone else after you nicely paid for it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, and I'm as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there's really nothing they can do. And I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car... And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, and I'm as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there's really nothing they can do. And I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car... And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car... And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Indeed my good man. And it's not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Better get to it then. I'm predicting somewhere in the next 5 years, true car ownership will be dead for new cars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're already at that point. I will never buy a new car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is it different for used "newish" cars? Or were you referring to used "pre 2018" cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the manufacturer and model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're already at that point. I will never buy a new car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is it different for used "newish" cars? Or were you referring to used "pre 2018" cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the manufacturer and model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is it different for used "newish" cars? Or were you referring to used "pre 2018" cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the manufacturer and model. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the manufacturer and model. permalink fedilink source parent