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Is Your Driving Being Secretly Scored? The insurance industry, hungry for insights into how people drive, has turned to automakers and smartphone apps like Life360. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

(also some cars have integrated tracking)

Pretty much every single car made in the last 5 years has it. And it's been in cars starting in the 90s so just because your car is a 2015 doesn't mean it's safe.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Every car. Not pretty much every one, but every one. Telemetry boxes have been around for a while and you can even get Telemetry Insurance if you have one. I think by 2015 all manufacturers had them.

    Edit: I want to also state this is for the US. Other nations are also doing this, but may not be there yet.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How would someone go about finding out if their older car has this?

    I have a 2012 Honda civic coupe and I can’t find anything about telemetry, but I doubt that means anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Years ago I found a good list of manufacturers and the year they became compliant. I can't seem to find the same list today (isn't that the way with the internet?). I did find this site that seems to list the recovery capability of the vehicles which indicates whether they are compliant or not. This should suffice:

    https://blackboxrecovery.com/supported-vehicles/honda?rq=honda

    It looks like you are in luck! Bad luck anyways. 2012 was the first year that Honda model was compliant according to that site.

    Edit: Here is another list so you might cross check (PDF warning): https://www.collision-recon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/EDR-Supported-Vehicles-List.pdf

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well that’s disappointing. But I did a bit more looking and at least it looks like it needs to be actively plugged into something to get information out of. This model year/trim package doesn’t really have, like, stuff? Just Bluetooth, and looks like that’s not useful for anything but audio.

    Definitely wish I could entirely disable it, but.. is what it is I guess, and at least it’s not phoning that info home, or sending to anyone else.

    This is what I found from 2014, so before every car was a full service internet infotainment spyware system on wheels.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-technology/car-black-box-recorders-capture-crash-data.html

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yes, whilst you do have a telemetry box, it is not phoning home. Data must be actively pulled from it by hand. As you know, typically this is done after an accident to better tell what the car went through. I know there are people who have sought to disable the boxes, but I don't know the legal or insurance ramifications of doing so. It is also difficult to locate them as they are "hidden" in the mass of wiring and other components. There are probably manufacturer-specific auto forum discussions on the matter to refer to.

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