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[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 251 points 2 years ago (9 children) 62 projected seats for nazis... great job citizens, great job -.- permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [β] voodoocode@feddit.de 158 points 2 years ago (3 children) There are even more, included in Nonaligned. The German Nazis (afd 16 seats) were kicked out of ID permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ErilElidor@feddit.de 124 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not to mention they were kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM. Wake me up in 5 years when we can hopefully stop this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sukhmel@programming.dev 44 points 2 years ago kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM I was going to joke suggesting that, but you already had my joke crushed by reality being exactly that π’ permalink fedilink source parent [β] RidderSport@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago On paper they were more extreme, the right loves to be seen as not that far right when in fact they are permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) SIXTEEN!? sorry, I gotta vomit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 63 points 2 years ago (5 children) Thanks Obama Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children) The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent [β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [β] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) And ID got 30 seats in France. Macron is having a new election on the 30th and well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am ashamed of my fellow citizens for making this happened. 35 seats, they get 35, RN + La France FiΓ¨re (Zemmour). permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can anybody explain his thinking? Why would you hand the fascists the wheel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HoornseBakfiets@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago That sounds an awful lot like what Hindenburg / von Papen thought they could do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Badeendje@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (2 children) Afd result is mind boggling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 62 points 2 years ago around 16.5% yeah, that is not just mind boggling but also fecking disheartening. permalink fedilink source parent [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) I blame it on the greens for not fielding Habeck as chancellor candidate. I'm probably going to be salty about that one for the next 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sadly you can blame it on FDP for blocking every single positive thing this government might have done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (4 children) We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean. ...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much. In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [β] wieson@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago That might have been a strategic mistake idk, but it's not as bad as the cxu and many more parties straight up copying nazi talking points and steering the discussion towards the afd and against the GrEeNs Β°oΒ° The newspapers are also to blame. permalink fedilink source parent [β] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago rise of the far right all over Europe I blame the greens of Germany for it Nah, mate, this is about the structure of media ownership. I won't be one to defend the greens of Germany, they're disgusting, but the real problem is that private media have interest in the right winning the elections, and there's also a ton of money spent boosting far right influencers in social media permalink fedilink source parent [β] lurch@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm voting as hard as I can, okay π₯΅ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish you could just vote harder permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Well, you can vote harder. The polls are not the only place you vote. Every purchase is a vote. Most people neglect their consumer power. Iβm boycotting hundreds (if not thousands) of harmful companies and products, including Amazon. You can always vote harder by investigating the shops and brands you support. You can investigate whether your bank invests in the fossil fuel energy and change banks (or better, become unbanked). You can follow the !climate_action_individual@slrpnk.net community. E.g. certainly one small thing @lurch@sh.itjust.works can do is ditch sh.itjust.works for a different instance. Website weight has quadrupled since Cloudflare took hold because CF encourages web admins to create heavy websites. sh.itjust.works is CF-based. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies) [β] Matumb0@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure if we should call them Nazi, as they kicked out the German Nazis, as explained in other comments. Maybe call them nationalists or ultra nationalists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] friendlymessage@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) They kicked out the German Nazis because they celebrated the SS, which is a no-go for French Nazis. Doesn't make them less Nazi, just the French kind that doesn't like to be killed by German Nazis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [β] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget ECR :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) ECR is shit, they're a bunch of eurosceptic, anti-immigration, libertarian conservative nationalists, but they don't hold a candle to ID, who are that, but on steroids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (4 replies)
[β] voodoocode@feddit.de 158 points 2 years ago (3 children) There are even more, included in Nonaligned. The German Nazis (afd 16 seats) were kicked out of ID permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ErilElidor@feddit.de 124 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not to mention they were kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM. Wake me up in 5 years when we can hopefully stop this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sukhmel@programming.dev 44 points 2 years ago kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM I was going to joke suggesting that, but you already had my joke crushed by reality being exactly that π’ permalink fedilink source parent [β] RidderSport@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago On paper they were more extreme, the right loves to be seen as not that far right when in fact they are permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) SIXTEEN!? sorry, I gotta vomit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 63 points 2 years ago (5 children) Thanks Obama Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children) The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent [β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [β] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) And ID got 30 seats in France. Macron is having a new election on the 30th and well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am ashamed of my fellow citizens for making this happened. 35 seats, they get 35, RN + La France FiΓ¨re (Zemmour). permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can anybody explain his thinking? Why would you hand the fascists the wheel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HoornseBakfiets@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago That sounds an awful lot like what Hindenburg / von Papen thought they could do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ErilElidor@feddit.de 124 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not to mention they were kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM. Wake me up in 5 years when we can hopefully stop this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sukhmel@programming.dev 44 points 2 years ago kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM I was going to joke suggesting that, but you already had my joke crushed by reality being exactly that π’ permalink fedilink source parent [β] RidderSport@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago On paper they were more extreme, the right loves to be seen as not that far right when in fact they are permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[β] sukhmel@programming.dev 44 points 2 years ago kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM I was going to joke suggesting that, but you already had my joke crushed by reality being exactly that π’ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] RidderSport@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago On paper they were more extreme, the right loves to be seen as not that far right when in fact they are permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) SIXTEEN!? sorry, I gotta vomit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 63 points 2 years ago (5 children) Thanks Obama Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children) The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent [β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 63 points 2 years ago (5 children) Thanks Obama Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children) The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent [β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 63 points 2 years ago (5 children) Thanks Obama Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children) The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent [β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies)
[β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children) The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent [β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge. I... I'm so fricking done. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again." permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[β] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) And ID got 30 seats in France. Macron is having a new election on the 30th and well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am ashamed of my fellow citizens for making this happened. 35 seats, they get 35, RN + La France FiΓ¨re (Zemmour). permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can anybody explain his thinking? Why would you hand the fascists the wheel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HoornseBakfiets@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago That sounds an awful lot like what Hindenburg / von Papen thought they could do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am ashamed of my fellow citizens for making this happened. 35 seats, they get 35, RN + La France FiΓ¨re (Zemmour). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can anybody explain his thinking? Why would you hand the fascists the wheel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] HoornseBakfiets@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago That sounds an awful lot like what Hindenburg / von Papen thought they could do. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HoornseBakfiets@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago That sounds an awful lot like what Hindenburg / von Papen thought they could do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago That sounds an awful lot like what Hindenburg / von Papen thought they could do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Badeendje@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (2 children) Afd result is mind boggling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 62 points 2 years ago around 16.5% yeah, that is not just mind boggling but also fecking disheartening. permalink fedilink source parent [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) I blame it on the greens for not fielding Habeck as chancellor candidate. I'm probably going to be salty about that one for the next 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sadly you can blame it on FDP for blocking every single positive thing this government might have done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (4 children) We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean. ...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much. In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [β] wieson@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago That might have been a strategic mistake idk, but it's not as bad as the cxu and many more parties straight up copying nazi talking points and steering the discussion towards the afd and against the GrEeNs Β°oΒ° The newspapers are also to blame. permalink fedilink source parent [β] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago rise of the far right all over Europe I blame the greens of Germany for it Nah, mate, this is about the structure of media ownership. I won't be one to defend the greens of Germany, they're disgusting, but the real problem is that private media have interest in the right winning the elections, and there's also a ton of money spent boosting far right influencers in social media permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DmMacniel@feddit.de 62 points 2 years ago around 16.5% yeah, that is not just mind boggling but also fecking disheartening. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] barsoap@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) I blame it on the greens for not fielding Habeck as chancellor candidate. I'm probably going to be salty about that one for the next 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sadly you can blame it on FDP for blocking every single positive thing this government might have done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (4 children) We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean. ...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much. In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [β] wieson@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago That might have been a strategic mistake idk, but it's not as bad as the cxu and many more parties straight up copying nazi talking points and steering the discussion towards the afd and against the GrEeNs Β°oΒ° The newspapers are also to blame. permalink fedilink source parent [β] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago rise of the far right all over Europe I blame the greens of Germany for it Nah, mate, this is about the structure of media ownership. I won't be one to defend the greens of Germany, they're disgusting, but the real problem is that private media have interest in the right winning the elections, and there's also a ton of money spent boosting far right influencers in social media permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sadly you can blame it on FDP for blocking every single positive thing this government might have done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (4 children) We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean. ...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much. In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies)
[β] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (4 children) We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean. ...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much. In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies)
[β] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much. In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[β] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important. Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear". Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere". Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma. Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners. But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[β] wieson@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago That might have been a strategic mistake idk, but it's not as bad as the cxu and many more parties straight up copying nazi talking points and steering the discussion towards the afd and against the GrEeNs Β°oΒ° The newspapers are also to blame. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago rise of the far right all over Europe I blame the greens of Germany for it Nah, mate, this is about the structure of media ownership. I won't be one to defend the greens of Germany, they're disgusting, but the real problem is that private media have interest in the right winning the elections, and there's also a ton of money spent boosting far right influencers in social media permalink fedilink source parent
[β] lurch@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm voting as hard as I can, okay π₯΅ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish you could just vote harder permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Well, you can vote harder. The polls are not the only place you vote. Every purchase is a vote. Most people neglect their consumer power. Iβm boycotting hundreds (if not thousands) of harmful companies and products, including Amazon. You can always vote harder by investigating the shops and brands you support. You can investigate whether your bank invests in the fossil fuel energy and change banks (or better, become unbanked). You can follow the !climate_action_individual@slrpnk.net community. E.g. certainly one small thing @lurch@sh.itjust.works can do is ditch sh.itjust.works for a different instance. Website weight has quadrupled since Cloudflare took hold because CF encourages web admins to create heavy websites. sh.itjust.works is CF-based. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies)
[β] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish you could just vote harder permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Well, you can vote harder. The polls are not the only place you vote. Every purchase is a vote. Most people neglect their consumer power. Iβm boycotting hundreds (if not thousands) of harmful companies and products, including Amazon. You can always vote harder by investigating the shops and brands you support. You can investigate whether your bank invests in the fossil fuel energy and change banks (or better, become unbanked). You can follow the !climate_action_individual@slrpnk.net community. E.g. certainly one small thing @lurch@sh.itjust.works can do is ditch sh.itjust.works for a different instance. Website weight has quadrupled since Cloudflare took hold because CF encourages web admins to create heavy websites. sh.itjust.works is CF-based. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies)
[β] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Well, you can vote harder. The polls are not the only place you vote. Every purchase is a vote. Most people neglect their consumer power. Iβm boycotting hundreds (if not thousands) of harmful companies and products, including Amazon. You can always vote harder by investigating the shops and brands you support. You can investigate whether your bank invests in the fossil fuel energy and change banks (or better, become unbanked). You can follow the !climate_action_individual@slrpnk.net community. E.g. certainly one small thing @lurch@sh.itjust.works can do is ditch sh.itjust.works for a different instance. Website weight has quadrupled since Cloudflare took hold because CF encourages web admins to create heavy websites. sh.itjust.works is CF-based. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies)
[β] Matumb0@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not sure if we should call them Nazi, as they kicked out the German Nazis, as explained in other comments. Maybe call them nationalists or ultra nationalists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] friendlymessage@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) They kicked out the German Nazis because they celebrated the SS, which is a no-go for French Nazis. Doesn't make them less Nazi, just the French kind that doesn't like to be killed by German Nazis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[β] friendlymessage@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) They kicked out the German Nazis because they celebrated the SS, which is a no-go for French Nazis. Doesn't make them less Nazi, just the French kind that doesn't like to be killed by German Nazis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[β] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget ECR :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) ECR is shit, they're a bunch of eurosceptic, anti-immigration, libertarian conservative nationalists, but they don't hold a candle to ID, who are that, but on steroids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[β] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) ECR is shit, they're a bunch of eurosceptic, anti-immigration, libertarian conservative nationalists, but they don't hold a candle to ID, who are that, but on steroids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
